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Depends what GPU you're pairing it with.
If it's something like a 4080/4090 or 7900xt/x then yes you will see a difference in 1% low/avg/max
If it's a slower GPU, you'll probably only see a difference in the 1% lows
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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
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Depends what GPU you're pairing it with.
If it's something like a 4080/4090 or 7900xt/x then yes you will see a difference in 1% low/avg/max
If it's a slower GPU, you'll probably only see a difference in the 1% lows
Thank you guys. Bit of a tough pill to swallow then...I might look out for 5700x3d to keep me busy until these become more regular
It is annoying, I pre ordered mine on the 30/11/24 which means I still have a fair bit to wait.
The issue is that the longer you wait the further down the queue you are and with no proper ETA of which stock will be available you never really know how long your going to be waiting.
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Thats interesting to know thanks, I mean I currently have a 3080 but was thinking of upgrading my GPU when the 50 series comes out. Wondering if it might be worth upgrading my CPU at the same time but I feel most the gains will be on the GPU side anyway. Just dont want the CPU holding back a new gpu thats all
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It is annoying. I don't really know why they release these products when they don't have the numbers necessary to fulfil orders. It encourages scalping and just ends in customer disappointment. And the longer we wait, the greater the chance we'll buy something else or just lose interest.
I don't suppose they could have foretold the miserable failure of intel, but this just seems to happen more and more these days. Whenever you come to buy something in the PC world, there is a queue a several months long.
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I do wonder if they where forced to release the 9800x3D early due to Intels release, they noticed how bad they where and that they could have avoided releasing the 9800X3D so early so then reduced stock until next year until they wanted to release it properly at full stock levels.
Problem is we do not know how many where made and sold or what there forecasts for sales were. They may of expected less to sell due to teh sales perform,ance of other Zen 5 parts. There is also teh fatc that at the time they announced the planned release no one knew how pants Arrow Lake would be in teh gaming market else they may of delayed . not annoynced the 9800X 3D also this probably increaswed sales with gamers moving away from Intel to AMD in larger numbers then predicted. There could also of been a number of other factors that could ot of been predicted.
New tech being in short supply ios hardly a new thing though and happens on most launches, heck even now X870/e motherboards are not in massive supply with most retailers having pre orders up for multiple SKUs that were announced at launch.
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I did that I got a 7800x3d about a week or 2 before I got my 9800x3d as I didn't know when it was coming . Took the shine off the 9800x3d a bit for me. Although now I haven't used the 7800x3d since I read up on the 9800x3d tips and tricks
Just like every other market, the number of competitive fabs dropped and dropped until we have what, three left? Lots of companies compete for their time and silicon, making it expensive. It just makes sense to restrict products when there is no competition except themselves so they can charge more and recoup some of that large cost. Also not letting old stock go to waste allows them to maximize profits.
Sad but won't change any time soon.
Sad but won't change any time soon.
Soldato
Im currently on the same combo of 5800x/3080.
If you are keeping the 3080, then a 9800x3d won't drastically change much at 1440p/4k res. Mainly improving the 1% lows and keep the framerate more consistent.
If you're upgrading to a 50 series, something like a 5070ti upwards then a 5800x will really start to bottleneck the GPU, so getting a 9800x3d would be more beneficial.
As said, I don't know what I'm doing with overclocking and don't see much if any benefit these days.
I set mine to all curve -35, +200 boost clock and that is it as I don't know any other settings lol.
Playing just now it's boosting to 5425 and running around 35 degrees (motherboard led showing, CPU package on hwinfo says 45)
Edit. scalar is set to X2 but dunno what that does.
I set mine to all curve -35, +200 boost clock and that is it as I don't know any other settings lol.
Playing just now it's boosting to 5425 and running around 35 degrees (motherboard led showing, CPU package on hwinfo says 45)
Edit. scalar is set to X2 but dunno what that does.
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A 5800x will not bottleneck any 4 series or 5 xx series cards at 4k.
If fine at 2x. If you wanted to go past the 5450 limit then you might need to increase it more. I think that is a nice overclock and just forget about it if it stable. I think mine is on 1x. You don't really need to know any other settings unless you have a motherboard with the asynchronous clock option (eclk) where you can go past 5450mhz
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@GoRedwings19 I set it to ten after that post but makes no difference.
Not sure if I have that option on my motherboard , I saw something about fclk, infinity fabric something.
Not sure if I have that option on my motherboard , I saw something about fclk, infinity fabric something.
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Okay so
UCLK is the clock frequency of the memory controller
MCLK is the clock frequency of the memory
FCLK is the clock frequency of the infinity fabric interconnect.
So the asynchronous clock runs independently of the base clock frequency, Sometimes known as an external clock but more widely known as eclk. When you raise your base clock frequency you raise the frequency of CPU and your memory etc. Eclk only raises the frequency of the cpu. Thats why you see members like @lt.matt with 5.85.
It only on certain motherboards on the x870/e i.e the pricier models. On older iteration of the platform I couldn't say as I don't have experience of them. I know matt has the gene as it stupidly amazing clocking motherboard. So usually it found on Asus Crosshair motherboard and above as well as teh gene. Frpm Giga it on the Aorus masters lineup and I don;t know what else it is on as I only use asus boards.
Also on an entirely different note. I remember buying your old 4770k setup many moons ago. Did I tell you I killed the just 3 days later trying to delid it? Now you know!!!
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Heh are you tempted to give it a whirl. it is simple enough to do
I changed it to 102, boost went down to 5345 and temp went up 10 degrees lol.
Bailing out
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Oh so i for got to add you need to play with the other curve optimise the curve shaper....I changed it to 102, boost went down to 5345 and temp went up 10 degrees lol.
Bailing out
CBA. I think the 5425 is decent and it runs cool so I'll stick with that lol.
Edit. Oops I changed the wrong one, I'll try once more. I changed 1 when I should have changed bclk2.
Ok now it runs at 5534. Not benchmarking, if it doesn't crash when I play games then that's my criteria for stable. No change in temp
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Totally understand. I am happy with my small undervolt and overclock and will leave it at that.