Instantly freezes on cinebench, but didn't crash on the few minutes I was in game.
Mind you, I have no idea if it did that with my previous settings as I'm not sure I recall testing it.
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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
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Instantly freezes on cinebench, but didn't crash on the few minutes I was in game.
Mind you, I have no idea if it did that with my previous settings as I'm not sure I recall testing it.
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I mean i guess I could try it over the weekend or over xmas. But everything is running fine, it's cool, it's quiet that's all I need. NGL I would go catatonic if it hit something like 5.6 or 5.7
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Try Occt. Usually I find most people who claim -35 pbo fall flat when running occt or prime.
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Guess I lucked out then. Mine will Prime at -35 Curve Optimizer all cores with +200 Mhz (not used OCCT), and will do -40 CO +200 Mhz with just Core 6 having trouble with Prime, but everything else happy to plod along. Just a shame I'm only running air, or would see how far I could push this chip.
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I beg to differ.
A 5800x paired with a 4080 or 4090 will perform worse than 9800x3d with the same GPUs at 4k in every metric, especially the 1% lows.
6.7% slower on average in the TPU 9800X3D review at 4K Ultra
8.2% lower minimum fps in the TPU 9800X3D review at 4K Ultra
Not compelling gains but if the situation is no expense spared, upgrading from a 5800 to a 9800X3D would get those last 6-7fps.
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Thats what I was thinking, thanks for that!
Guess when the time comes, I’ll need to do a full upgrade
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Yes it will perform worse in the 1% lows but at 4k ultimately it the GPU which is the bottleneck.
Like where do you think the biggest performance gains is at 4k going from a 5800x to 9800x3d or going between a 4080 to 4090.
But you right if you want to talk semantics. But ultimately you can put off a CPU upgrade at 4k gaming for quite a while before it would seriously hinder performance. Most cpu's in the last 2-3 years are within margin of error figures if directly compared to the 9800x3d.
That's why you see quite a lot of 4k gamers who run older cpu's with 4090's.
A week or so in - it feels great for emails and web browsing so far 
Currently downloading Dragon Age Origins and Disney Dreamlight Valley to give it a real test!! Ok so not really, but hopefully I will still be gaming in blissful ignorance on it in 6 or 7 years which was my main theory behind getting it
Currently downloading Dragon Age Origins and Disney Dreamlight Valley to give it a real test!! Ok so not really, but hopefully I will still be gaming in blissful ignorance on it in 6 or 7 years which was my main theory behind getting it
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can anyone link me up to a good guide (webpage/YT) for undervolting my 9800x3d, dont want to overclock, but would like to drop the temps a tiny bit, bit lost reading about curve offsets and shapers - thanks!
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When you undevolt it will automatically boost itself
No idea, Whenever AMD decides to make some serious stock available.
Saw someone that had a 9800X3D die and AMD could not even supply an ETA of when that person could expect a replacement CPU and this was an RMA directly to AMD
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9800X3D the new 2600k/Q6600?
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I am using it to play the new Indy jones games. I don’t often play new games as I have been stuck in the same game for the last 14/15 years.A week or so in - it feels great for emails and web browsing so far
Currently downloading Dragon Age Origins and Disney Dreamlight Valley to give it a real test!! Ok so not really, but hopefully I will still be gaming in blissful ignorance on it in 6 or 7 years which was my main theory behind getting it
Nah - Q6600 was well priced and nibbling at the heels of the faster, more expensive, CPUs with good all around performance, but losing out on all out gaming performance to other CPUs like the higher end dual-cores until games started to use more than 1-2 threads properly.
What games is that then?
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Just league of legends. It the only game I play really. And to be blunt I don’t need the 9800x3d or the 14900k to play that game. But I do like building pc’s or rather more the research, cross referencing. It’s all about the chase and come January as mad as it sounds I will get the 5090 and a 9950x3d and still end up playing league of legends.
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So basically if you want to lower the voltage and temps. You go into the PBO section select advanced and you will see curve optimise go in to it. So then you can either do all core or each individually.
You select negative and then you can enter the figure. My advice would be to start more conservatively the reason being is some YouTuber posted going in straight in at -30. As he recommended the 9800x3d is good for it. Now what I have learned or read there is a comment the initial batches of the 9800x3d were the better ones and you could do -30 or -35 etc. and the ones that followed later could only managed -20 or -15. Is there some truth to this? Who knows?
There are some people here are looking for certain batches *cough* *cough* lt.matt. I am not disclosing which batches are good or bad. Just enjoy your cpu/setup.
start at -15 as that is not too much and not too less. If you get any funky stuff happening then chances are your cpu doesn’t like it and dial it down by -5. If your cpu likes it then wap on another 5.
So when you do this you will lower the voltage used which means lower temps. Your 9800x3d will boost itself automatically. If you don’t use the clock override function then normally you should get around the 5050 range if your cpu really likes you then you can get to -30 which it will boost to 5250.
And if turns out that your chip is not very good at undervolting/boosting in the whole scheme of things it means very little. Sure it would be nice to have a good undervolt and a good boost but you still have an excellent cpu which you give you the gaming performance that you need for quite a few years. Is a few degrees gonna disappoint you if it lasts you years. Not really.
I was playing indy Jones the great circle on it and the die temp was 48c with the heating full blast. Full path tracing and the high Res texture pack,. I can't even remember what it runs on my 12900k but it not as low as that. And my 14900k that's at least 10c-12c hotter than the 12900k. Comparison is the thief of joy.
Which reminds me the other night I was just checking through some test runs and on one of them it said my cpu boosted to 5.6ghz which is biazarro as I don’t use eclk overclocking. Most be some error with reporting the clocks.
So basically if you want to lower the voltage and temps. You go into the PBO section select advanced and you will see curve optimise go in to it. So then you can either do all core or each individually.
You select negative and then you can enter the figure. My advice would be to start more conservatively the reason being is some YouTuber posted going in straight in at -30. As he recommended the 9800x3d is good for it. Now what I have learned or read there is a comment the initial batches of the 9800x3d were the better ones and you could do -30 or -35 etc. and the ones that followed later could only managed -20 or -15. Is there some truth to this? Who knows?
There are some people here are looking for certain batches *cough* *cough* lt.matt. I am not disclosing which batches are good or bad. Just enjoy your cpu/setup.
start at -15 as that is not too much and not too less. If you get any funky stuff happening then chances are your cpu doesn’t like it and dial it down by -5. If your cpu likes it then wap on another 5.
So when you do this you will lower the voltage used which means lower temps. Your 9800x3d will boost itself automatically. If you don’t use the clock override function then normally you should get around the 5050 range if your cpu really likes you then you can get to -30 which it will boost to 5250.
And if turns out that your chip is not very good at undervolting/boosting in the whole scheme of things it means very little. Sure it would be nice to have a good undervolt and a good boost but you still have an excellent cpu which you give you the gaming performance that you need for quite a few years. Is a few degrees gonna disappoint you if it lasts you years. Not really.
I was playing indy Jones the great circle on it and the die temp was 48c with the heating full blast. Full path tracing and the high Res texture pack,. I can't even remember what it runs on my 12900k but it not as low as that. And my 14900k that's at least 10c-12c hotter than the 12900k. Comparison is the thief of joy.
Which reminds me the other night I was just checking through some test runs and on one of them it said my cpu boosted to 5.6ghz which is biazarro as I don’t use eclk overclocking. Most be some error with reporting the clocks.
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