AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

GoRedwings19 · 2025-01-13T06:46:37+0000

subroutine said:
I have this RAM running EXPO fine -

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but, the latency seems high to me @ 80ns. Would that cause a noticeable issue gaming (i don't have a GPU until thew 5090 release so can't test) and if yes, how would I lower the latency without getting bogged down too much ?

You can alter the secondary timings. My memory has a latency of 80-82ns I can’t remember. I just used a YouTube vid to change the secondary timings.

subroutine · 2025-01-13T06:51:04+0000

Thanks and how low did the secondary timings get the latency ? I'm just trying to figure out what is 'normal'

GoRedwings19 · 2025-01-13T06:54:36+0000

subroutine said:
Thanks and how low did the secondary timings get the latency ? I'm just trying to figure out what is 'normal'

Well first off I don’t use expo or xmp I just enter the primary timings in individually this dropped it a minuscule amount to 78. Then I use the YouTube vid and that dropped it to 70ns. There are quite a few posts I have seen here where members have like 67-68 ns. But for the sake of 2 ns I am gonna leave as is.

I have neither the time or inclination to find out which setting or combo of settings that will drop it that extra 2ns. I just want to play games.

subroutine · 2025-01-13T06:58:49+0000

Is that vid the Buildzoid one titled "Easy memory timings for Hynix DDR5 with Ryzen 7000" ?

ED209 · 2025-01-13T07:14:26+0000

jonneymendoza said:
Is it day light robbery to buy this cpu when it's like 80 pounds ish more then when it was first launched?

Considering how much it was on release day I would say so but its up to you and your money so if your are happy to pay the price currently for it then grab 1

subroutine · 2025-01-13T08:01:07+0000

GoRedwings19 said:
Well first off I don’t use expo or xmp I just enter the primary timings in individually this dropped it a minuscule amount to 78. Then I use the YouTube vid and that dropped it to 70ns. There are quite a few posts I have seen here where members have like 67-68 ns. But for the sake of 2 ns I am gonna leave as is.

I have neither the time or inclination to find out which setting or combo of settings that will drop it that extra 2ns. I just want to play games.

I used the Buildzoid settings and the latency has dropped to 69ns. Thanks for your help.

jonneymendoza · 2025-01-13T09:49:05+0000

ED209 said:
Considering how much it was on release day I would say so but its up to you and your money so if your are happy to pay the price currently for it then grab 1

Question is, will it ever go down to launch price?

ED209 · 2025-01-13T09:50:47+0000

jonneymendoza said:
Question is, will it ever go down to launch price?

That's the thing, until stock is readily available and the next line of X3D chips are out and stocked it could be awhile or it may never go back down

jonneymendoza · 2025-01-13T10:11:35+0000

ED209 said:
That's the thing, until stock is readily available and the next line of X3D chips are out and stocked it could be awhile or it may never go back down

Yea so in theory, buying it at today's price is not really being scammed as its not likely to go down in price until the 1080x3d releases

ED209 · 2025-01-13T10:18:34+0000

jonneymendoza said:
Yea so in theory, buying it at today's price is not really being scammed as its not likely to go down in price until the 1080x3d releases

Or the release of the 9900X3D\9950X3D could bring it down but unsure when this will be

Meddling-Monk · 2025-01-13T10:31:47+0000

ED209 said:
Or the release of the 9900X3D\9950X3D could bring it down but unsure when this will be

That's assuming of course that it doesn't run the same as the 7000x3D series did; where the 7950 and 7900 x3D versions weren't that much better for gaming over the 7800x3D, and had their own share of problems when running productivity stuff and needed a lot of manual help intially to even get the expected performance out. If something similar or worse happens, then we could see the price of the 9800x3D increase even more.

ED209 · 2025-01-13T10:33:47+0000

Meddling-Monk said:
That's assuming of course that it doesn't run the same as the 7000x3D series did; where the 7950 and 7900 x3D versions weren't that much better for gaming over the 7800x3D, and had their own share of problems when running productivity stuff and needed a lot of manual help intially to even get the expected performance out. If something similar or worse happens, then we could see the price of the 9800x3D increase even more.

That is true, We can hope! lol

Varys · 2025-01-13T11:00:32+0000

Meddling-Monk said:
That's assuming of course that it doesn't run the same as the 7000x3D series did; where the 7950 and 7900 x3D versions weren't that much better for gaming over the 7800x3D, and had their own share of problems when running productivity stuff and needed a lot of manual help intially to even get the expected performance out. If something similar or worse happens, then we could see the price of the 9800x3D increase even more.

They do. They only have 1 x3d CCD

pewpew · 2025-01-13T11:54:32+0000

Man CPU prices are all over the pace they keep rising!, I'm hoping it will drop back down in a month or two and its a supply/demand thing

Blackjack Davy · 2025-01-13T14:47:41+0000

CraigT76 said:
You mean profiteering?

Prices are much the same across the board if you think can find anywhere at close to launch then good luck to you

DizzyZ · 2025-01-13T15:01:34+0000

Blackjack Davy said:
Prices are much the same across the board if you think can find anywhere at close to launch then good luck to you

It's price gouging, once demand drops and supply increases, I expect these to drop swiftly, just look at this website, already dropped £10 on the price as no ones buying and it's still in stock lol...

jonneymendoza · 2025-01-13T15:06:08+0000

DizzyZ said:
It's price gouging, once demand drops and supply increases, I expect these to drop swiftly, just look at this website, already dropped £10 on the price as no ones buying and it's still in stock lol...

Approximate 8 days ago it was around 500. I could not buy it at the time as I was browsing it from my phone on the train to work. As soon as I reached my desk at work, it was sold out lol.

I don't even remember the legendary q660 from Intel selling out that quickly

Benass · 2025-01-13T18:10:43+0000

so, £500 is new low price?

isthistheend · 2025-01-13T18:51:55+0000

DizzyZ said:
It's price gouging, once demand drops and supply increases, I expect these to drop swiftly, just look at this website, already dropped £10 on the price as no ones buying and it's still in stock lol...

95% of people who are going to buy one have brought one already. The other 5% now just waiting for the massive price drops and over supply (includes me).

XeNoNF50 · 2025-01-13T19:26:40+0000

isthistheend said:
95% of people who are going to buy one have brought one already. The other 5% now just waiting for the massive price drops and over supply (includes me).

Don't think those numbers are right tbh.

Think it will also have a surge of interest alongside new Nvidia GPUs. People building new systems for their new shiny shiny.