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Poll: AMD Screws Gamers: Sponsorships Likely Block DLSS

Are AMD out of order if they are found to be blocking DLSS on Starfield

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Stanners said:
Definitely agree, I am working on the grounds of if as I have highlighted previously in the thread. I personally think the lack of any response from either party speaks volumes currently. They could have a very plausible answer to it all, but if they have I would be giving my PR department a good shoeing if I was them :cry:

Anyway, off to enjoy the sun :D
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I think for any other company I would agree with you but not for AMD they have habit of continuously walking around with a shotgun aimed at their foot ready to fire.

The problem is their PR is so useless in general it wouldn't surprise me the response was that incompetent.

But anyways enjoy the sun!
 
Naff8000 said:
HUBs rep will only increase after this nonsense, to those who aren't brain dead
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Yet HUB haven't actually provided any evidence that AMD are infact doing what he thinks they are doing. Unless I've missed it, this entire thread is basically speculation at best.

There are AMD sponsored titles with dlss, just as there are Nvidia sponsored titles with FSR, and in the case of games based on Unreal Engine, adding the feature is as simple as drag and drop for the plugin. So there are obviously other reasons why, reasons that may well have nothing to do with AMD or NVidia in the first place.
 
MadMossy said:
Yet HUB haven't actually provided any evidence that AMD are infact doing what he thinks they are doing. Unless I've missed it, this entire thread is basically speculation at best.

There are AMD sponsored titles with dlss, just as there are Nvidia sponsored titles with FSR, and in the case of games based on Unreal Engine, adding the feature is as simple as drag and drop for the plugin. So there are obviously other reasons why, reasons that may well have nothing to do with AMD or NVidia in the first place.
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They haven't. In the videos they say "AMD are Likely blocking DLSS". It may end up with DLSS upon release, it may not. I'm not too fussed either way in all honestly as the game is likely to be locked at 60fps anway so if you need frame gen to hit 60fps it was still feel like ***
 
SpudMaster said:
They haven't. In the videos they say "AMD are Likely blocking DLSS". It may end up with DLSS upon release, it may not. I'm not too fussed either way in all honestly as the game is likely to be locked at 60fps anway so if you need frame gen to hit 60fps it was still feel like ***
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For a company which hub is now, they should know that sponsors come with terms and conditions.

Unless they don't understand that or aware of it, then they need to seek independent legal advice.
 
Robert896r1 said:
Tim with a wrecking ball of common sense. Gotta say this has been entertaining.
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He's not here though, he's failed to address what is sponsored and terms that go with it.

It's common practice, not rare but common to have exclusive features when you sponsor something.

He's dodging this important part hard
 
Raelgun said:
He's not here though, he's failed to address what is sponsored and terms that go with it.

It's common practice, not rare but common to have exclusive features when you sponsor something.

He's dodging this important part hard
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The best part of it all to me is that these sponsored titles cost even over 200 million USD to make. AMD sponsorship is likely worth way below 1% of that sum. It's only few days of work comparing to years of development of the rest of the game. In other words, these big publishers do not need it one bit or even get it for free (just so AMD can put their logo on it). Now, if that gives the power to AMD to block anything (highly unlikely) whose fault is that? AMD or the publisher/Devs? People seem to be barking the wrong tree and then wonder why nothing changes. It would be very different situation with indie developers but this is mostly about big ones.

No matter how it's twisted we are back to the simple truth about penny pinching by big publishers.

Fan fact, this whole drama (wasn't that much in the light though) has been in the internet for over 2 years now. Still no whistleblowers, still no evidence.
 
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Tinek said:
The best part of it all to me is that these sponsored titles cost even over 200 million USD to make. AMD sponsorship is likely worth not even 1% of that sum. In other words, these big publishers do not need it one bit or even get it for free (just so AMD can put their logo on it). Now, if that gives the power to AMD to block anything (highly unlikely) whose fault is that? AMD or the publisher/Devs? People seem to be barking the wrong tree and then wonder why nothing changes. It would be very different situation with indie developers but this is mostly about big ones.

No matter how it's twisted we are back to the simple truth about penny pinching by big publishers.

Fan fact, this whole drama (wasn't that much in the light though) has been in the internet for over 2 years now. Still no whistleblowers, still no evidence.
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it's the right of every industry, every company does it.

We don't know the amount of money involved between the 2 parties but money on AMD having more money then Bethesda.
 
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Cyber-Mav said:
Just because everyone does it doesnt mean it's a good thing and can be ignored
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So we agree now that if Nvidia does it, it's anti competitive and anti consumer?

it's the right of the law even the terms are drawn up. It sucks but it can't be changed.

You know what sucks more, Nvidia and AMD releasing bad GPUs that should be better and better priced.

Both still require raw raster horse power and the circuit to do it.

The 4080 should have been priced $450 or less
 
Raelgun said:
it's the right of every industry, every company does it.

We don't know the amount of money involved between the 2 parties but money on AMD having more money then Bethesda.
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There is no money involved - sponsorship by NVIDIA and AMD (which even HU said in first vid) means they lend them engineers for free to assist in implementing this or that tech, optimise engine etc. It might involve some advertisement too. That's about it. It's worth some money, yes, but it's not actual money changing hands.
 
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Cyber-Mav said:
Evidence was provided in that web page that showed the trend of amd sponsored games not having dlss. And implied evidence with amd's statement or lack thereof
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Which, in court of law, is no evidence at all. From scientific point of view it would be laughable to consider this an evidence too. But public loves a witch hunt, so here we are. :)
 
Tinek said:
There is no money involved - sponsorship by NVIDIA and AMD (which even HU said in first vid) means they lend them engineers for free to assist in implementing this or that tech, optimise engine etc. It might involve some advertisement too. That's about it. It's wroth some money, yes, but it's not money.
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What about the thousands of game keys, do they not have monetary value?
 
So how is hub going to spin the inevitable DLSS inclusion. And I have no doubt people on here will still blame AMD for crumbling to pressure or whatever, rather than just admit it was a rumour which may never come to fruition. (I am not saying AMD have not blocked DLSS, they may have, but let's wait and see).
 
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hyperseven said:
What about the thousands of game keys, do they not have monetary value?
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You'd have to be more precise in that question - what keys, how acquired, etc.? Do you know if they were given for free to AMD by publisher? Or AMD purchased them? Or they were given as payment for AMD's help in development (hardly a sponsorship in such case, is it?), etc. Without details it's just empty question about nothing.
 
Tinek said:
You'd have to be more precise in that question - what keys, how acquired, etc.? Do you know if they were given for free to AMD by publisher? Or AMD purchased them? Or they were given as payment for AMD's help in development (hardly a sponsorship in such case, is it?), etc. Without details it's just empty question about nothing.
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Why would they need paying, thought you said no money was involved and a game is worth money?
 
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