Serious doubt it, even more so anything of a size that would effect temps. Anyway, yes it's big put more paste on, more is better than missing anything
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Serious doubt it, even more so anything of a size that would effect temps. Anyway, yes it's big put more paste on, more is better than missing anything
Just watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2MEAnZ3swQ (yes i know it was a bad spread), but i'm starting to think that as long as there is a good amount of paste over the part of the IHS where the cpu is the method doesn't matter. Are there any videos showing how the head is distributed over the IHS?
It creates pockets of air because when you push the heatsink down the air has nowhere to escape, not only that but air expands when hot so those pockets will only get bigger as you use the processor. That MSI video is horrific tbh.
This is the perfect example, you can see the air pockets with spread method:
Soldato
LMAO 
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Caporegime
^^ this, it's really not worth worrying about. Relatively sure people like Thermal Griz and Gelid tested it before including a spreader. The differences are minimal except where you have no paste.
Giant CPUs for the win!
Soldato
.........Big.
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ASUS X399 Zenith Extreme
Like the Nvidia advertising right next to the board
Like the Nvidia advertising right next to the board
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https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/870373386391891968
16C/32T Ryzen Threadripper will be on sales for $849, that will be about £799 after exchange rate and VAT.
We now know the price of flagship Ryzen Threadripper so we will have to wait to find out the price of TR4 motherboards. I think it could cost over £500.
Interesting, 16C/32T Ryzen Threadripper CPU cost AMD $110-120 included dies, package and testing.
16C/32T Ryzen Threadripper will be on sales for $849, that will be about £799 after exchange rate and VAT.
We now know the price of flagship Ryzen Threadripper so we will have to wait to find out the price of TR4 motherboards. I think it could cost over £500.
Interesting, 16C/32T Ryzen Threadripper CPU cost AMD $110-120 included dies, package and testing.
Soldato
I wonder then will be the first person here, saying that AMD is profiteering with 700% markup, and we should buy Intel
I wonder then will be the first person here, saying that AMD is profiteering with 700% markup, and we should buy Intel
Mental as AMD has projections of 40% margins for 2020.
Caporegime
The $110-120 probably doesn't include the huge R&D cost.
Soldato
Exactly, it is a small part of the overall cost. Marketing, R&D, distribution or the fact they are selling to a wholesaler who then sells to shops who then sell to us who also want a 30% mark up from what they brought it for. Leaving AMD more like 25% cut at this time and working up to that 40% cut as they cover the R&D costs their margins go up.
Caporegime
Thats very good all things considered, you can bet your last £ Intel's 32 thread CPU will be twice that and 10% faster.
Soldato
Guys nobody I believe was critical for AMD here regarding the profit margins. On the contrary is interesting to know that they could make a profit selling the CPU at half the price the 6950X! Let alone the new X299 lineup.
We don't dispute what is true profit, r&d costs, marketing etc. Surely aren't going to sell for loss, but puts a light on the Intel pricing.....
We don't dispute what is true profit, r&d costs, marketing etc. Surely aren't going to sell for loss, but puts a light on the Intel pricing.....
which we knew would happen due to lack of competition for so long, but il be blunt. im rather disappointed with computex and the lack of demo units from either camp. we know a little bit more about specs and a lot about motherboards and thats it. talk about a weak showing. anyone can rock up and state their next cpu will have XX cores and do many things but would have been nice to have seen at least a cinebench demo running or something.
Soldato
I get that. I was trying to point out there is more too it but you are right.
Further to that, with Intel R&D being more they need higher markup initially I would think, As well as the way they make their chips generally costing more from my understanding so yes I am willing to say their margins are greater than AMD's but they are not 200% greater than AMD's is all.
Intel's higher initial costs set their precedence of pricing with their margin that they have set their financial forecast on.
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If I bought a ThreadRipper for home use, some of the cores might as well be made of sawdust, as they would be idle for the entire service lifetime of the processor 