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Yes, I mentioned this a few posts up, EPYC is LGA 4094, and was in fact the first chip announced on the socket at the AMD FAD earlier in the month.
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Yes, I mentioned this a few posts up, EPYC is LGA 4094, and was in fact the first chip announced on the socket at the AMD FAD earlier in the month.
Awesome. So a 32 Core product that Could fit on an X399 board definitely exists it is just labelled as a server product at the moment. Obviously I have no idea if the X399 Chipset can support it or what the memory controller would be required but I just had a flash back to the X399 video and you can see the four module nature of the socket there - so potentially all the chips are going to have the same layout as the one Lisa Su held up...
Hype train Alert - Epyc win for AMD as they announce not 16 thread Threadripper but also full Epyc support for X399. Intel executives seen weeping. - Not yet... as it turns out.
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True but I'm on a Haswell i7 and other tasks in Windows 10 are sucking cpu cycles, notably the god damn windows software protection rubbish..... I want to turn it off but apparently stops software working.... Nice one microshaft.
So to have a 'clean' 6-8 cores for LR will be wonderful.
Also Premier pro will use all cores exporting etc and I do that daily as well.
I held off this time hoping something like thread ripper comes along
I could be wrong it looks to me like Threadripper is actually EPYC but with 16 of its cores disabled, like With 'Intel Enthusiast' Threadripper is just a server CPU that did't make the grade, it comes from a 32 core CPU....
So the answer is yes, if AMD wanted to get into a cores war with Intel they would win it because AMD do have more cores on a single packaged, and one with even more coming, 48 cores. 'Starship'
but AMD are not true cores on die, it seems to be composed of separate 8 core modules where as intel are all on die. I wonder what advantage or disadvantage this has in terms of performance. Intel could easily do what AMD are doing and win the core battle if such a thing even exists.
Caporegime
Yes and no, Yes it is multiple CPU's on a PCB but no it doesn't reduce performance, AMD's Infinity Fabric means all of those 'CPU'lets' act as one CPU, as a matter of fact the Ryzen 7 CPU's are actually two 4 core CPU's connected together through this Infinity Fabric.
With it AMD can get far better yields than Intel because what they are doing is stitching high yield small 8 core CPU's together.
Theoretically the limit is how many AMD can fit on a PCB, and or how many sockets they can fit on a motherboard.
Caporegime
This is the CPU Threadripper is based on. 128 PCIe lanes, 8 Memory channels.... its a phenomenal thing and its not even the biggest platform AMD are going to do with this first revision of Zen.
Soldato
Never before drooled seeing a CPU presentation.
My understanding is that AMD due to budget issues decided to do one off design of a single core and the technologies around them, that allowed
a) power efficiency
b) making is modular allowing more scalability from 4 core all way to 32/64 core CPU. Without feeling shame that actually you need bigger socket and cannot put all together under one die.
c) pushing the rest of the technology few steps ahead.
So by producing a single "chip" product, and just plugging as many as they want on a "CPU PCB", significantly reduces production costs, and improves profitability.
While they have the scallability to do what ever they like. And if they make money on the R7 1700, I won't be surprised if we see the 16c/32t monster bellow the £1000 price mark.
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People are guessing that the Blender demo is anywhere from 2 to 3 times faster than a zen 8 at 3.4 GHz. Seems that these will be clocked reasonably high and the infinity fabric is scaling really well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6edx4r/ryzen_threadripper_demo_desktop_screenshot/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6edx4r/ryzen_threadripper_demo_desktop_screenshot/
I read that Threadripper uses SP3r2 whereas Epyc uses R3 sockets, don’t know if it’s true though.
Soldato
https://www.techpowerup.com/233945/amd-readies-nine-ryzen-threadripper-models
Some solid looking clocks there, pretty much on par with their Ryzen counterparts. Seems adding more cores doesn't really affect Zen max core speeds and it's just TDP envelopes that are the limiting factor.
That 12C24T 3.6/4.1 looks pretty tasty!
Caporegime
Man these epic. A 16 core chip boosting to 3.9 and a 12 core boosting to 4.1!
Take my money!
Take my money!
Soldato
And that before overclocking with some custom watercooling (eg 480mm EK XE rad with 8 Vardars)
So with good cooling, they could get to ~4ghz as per normal Ryzen 5/7 etc. Because per se is the same cores and more likely very highly binned ones.
So motherboard power delivery is the only limitation here, hence we see already 2 8pin CPU connectors needed
I think that's fake. If you look at there source the website appears to have the exact same table as the previous rumor that was going around where is had ridiculous names like 1998X or something
Edit: With how big threadripper is, is the standard pea sized blob of thermal paste still valid?
I'm very interested in threadripper as well as the X299 as for it would mean I could have a single box which can game and stream when I like as I don't want to be buying 2 systems ideally. It's something which my X99 / 6850K runs at the moment but really struggles with. It will also help with VMs, a few add in cards and a few other programs like Premier CC for example. The IO on offer from Threadripper is really impressive, as you have a complete range of IO support throughout the range.
So the 12/14 core options look to be the sweetspot for my needs.
I've just ordered a new case and I am in the process of refreshing my WC loop as well.
So the 12/14 core options look to be the sweetspot for my needs.
I've just ordered a new case and I am in the process of refreshing my WC loop as well.
Caporegime
Don't think so, probably a small blob above each module. The CPU is huge.
I don't think that's been valid for a while hence all the good pastes come with spreaders. I don't think anyone that I know would just assume its covered all corners even on a small CPU.
I'm not saying it doesn't work, just with the hot state of modern CPUs I'd want to be sure before I screw it all down. Maybe just because I'm watercooling a overclocking I'm paranoid though... spread it evenly and it's always good
I don't think that's been valid for a while hence all the good pastes come with spreaders. I don't think anyone that I know would just assume its covered all corners even on a small CPU.
I'm not saying it doesn't work, just with the hot state of modern CPUs I'd want to be sure before I screw it all down. Maybe just because I'm watercooling a overclocking I'm paranoid though... spread it evenly and it's always good
I think a nice blob in each quadrant for each die, and then a small one in the centre should be enough.
The only paste I recently used that needed to be spread was Kryonaut, and it gave me a same temps as my Noctua NH-1 which was much easier to deal with.
Then again I'm a filthy air cooling peasant
I thought spreading introduces air bubbles?I don't think that's been valid for a while hence all the good pastes come with spreaders. I don't think anyone that I know would just assume its covered all corners even on a small CPU.
I'm not saying it doesn't work, just with the hot state of modern CPUs I'd want to be sure before I screw it all down. Maybe just because I'm watercooling a overclocking I'm paranoid though... spread it evenly and it's always good