*** AMD ThreadRipper ***

[MR.B]

Low load mine has voltage at 1.5v which is absolutely fine for a few cores. During high load and all core boost (4.1ghz) voltage us around 1.1v with llc at setting 5.

I regularly see up to 4.6ghz on a couple of cores. Check max boost with hwinfo, the transition might be too quick for cpuz to pick up. Ryzens are also quite picky on having the correct bios settings (c states etc) - did you set "load optimised defaults" in the bios? Also latest chips et drivers and ryzen power plan.

Thanks for the help. Could i have your BIOS settings please? Because i'm new to Ryzen and don't know everything yet, so it'll be easier lol.

But i've now loaded optimized defaults in the BIOS, and installed the latest chipset drivers from AMD. My max boost now slightly increased to 4.42GHz in HWinfo but it's very brief and doesn't stay there. I originally installed the latest 'chipset drivers' from Asus, and they didn't include the Ryzen power plan and had a completely different version number... No idea what's going on there.

Also my CPU voltage isn't going higher than 1.4v, even with load line calibration at level 5, so how is yours going to 1.5v? My all core boost is 4GHz at 1.23v (when running Blender), but your 4.1GHz with just 1.1v seems impossibly low?

 

[Deleted member 66701]

The boost wont stay consistently at 4.5ghz -it will fluctuate between that and around 4.35ghz on light loads - that's just the way Ryzen works. Leave HWInfo open for a while and I expect you'll see the expected 4.5ghz boost.

Also my CPU voltage isn't going higher than 1.4v, even with load line calibration at level 5, so how is yours going to 1.5v? My all core boost is 4GHz at 1.23v (when running Blender), but your 4.1GHz with just 1.1v seems impossibly low?

Silicon lottery and cooling - different chips will have different voltage requirements and boost profiles. Also, SenseMI constantly alters the boost/voltage according to temps. Just the nature of modern cpus.

 

[Matrix]

Happy new year all

Just wondering are thermal pads any good ? I've always used paste ( thermal grizzly ) but seen the pads and wondered if anyone uses them ?

Like this for a threadripper https://www.overclockers.co.uk/thermal-grizzly-carbonaut-thermal-pad-51-68-0.2-mm-th-02f-tg.html

Thanks

 

[Quartz]

There's a big jump from the 3970 32 core Threadripper to the 3990 64 core chip. And a teasing gap in the numbers, so will there be a 48 or 56 core 3980 Threadripper?

 

[tommoT.Striker]

There are rumours of a 48 core threadripper, will have to wait and see, but may be a very tempting piece. https://www.techpowerup.com/262509/...ter-for-when-64-cores-are-too-many-32-too-few

 

[Deleted member 209350]

There's a big jump from the 3970 32 core Threadripper to the 3990 64 core chip. And a teasing gap in the numbers, so will there be a 48 or 56 core 3980 Threadripper?

The 3980x seems likely to be a 48 core chip. Right in the middle of the 32 and 64 core variants

 

[Quartz]

I was thinking that either beast would allow AMD to use CCXs with one or two faulty cores.

 

[MR.B]

There's a big jump from the 3970 32 core Threadripper to the 3990 64 core chip. And a teasing gap in the numbers, so will there be a 48 or 56 core 3980 Threadripper?

CPUZ just got support added for a 48 core 3980X.

I hate how delayed the Threadripper releases are, and now this one is even more staggered. It's like what Intel do/did with their HEDT platform for years, where by the time you actually get your hands on the CPU it usually isn't that long until the next gen mainstream parts arrive. In this case it'll be Ryzen 4000/Zen 3, which unlike Intel CPU's, will most likely be a decent IPC upgrade (rumored 17%). I miss the days when the high end CPU's were released first.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

CPUZ just got support added for a 48 core 3980X.

I hate how delayed the Threadripper releases are, and now this one is even more staggered. It's like what Intel do/did with their HEDT platform for years, where by the time you actually get your hands on the CPU it usually isn't that long until the next gen mainstream parts arrive. In this case it'll be Ryzen 4000/Zen 3, which unlike Intel CPU's, will most likely be a decent IPC upgrade (rumored 17%). I miss the days when the high end CPU's were released first.

It would make sense for new chips to be released every 18 months. This way there is a big enough gap between releasing the desktop CPU's followed by APU's, mobile chips and HEDT chips before the next generation comes around.

By releasing chips every 12 months, by the time the HEDT chips and mobile chips are released, the next gen of CPU's are already around the corner.

I mean there is no need to rush out chips every 12 months when they perform really well, AMD can just take their time and make it worthwhile buying current gen ones instead of thinking its better to wait until the next gen

 

[Quartz]

CPUZ just got support added for a 48 core 3980X.

Excellent.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Excellent.

Im guessing a CES announcement, should be released before March

 

[Matrix]

Is there anything wrong with the Asrock trx40 taichi socket strx4 ?HAd a Taichi board on my old Ryzen 1700X .

Like the fact they supply a expansion board for 4 more M2 drives as i run 4 already on my 29050X system .

Thanks

 

[smilingcrow]

I hate how delayed the Threadripper releases are, and now this one is even more staggered. It's like what Intel do/did with their HEDT platform for years, where by the time you actually get your hands on the CPU it usually isn't that long until the next gen mainstream parts arrive. In this case it'll be Ryzen 4000/Zen 3, which unlike Intel CPU's, will most likely be a decent IPC upgrade (rumored 17%). I miss the days when the high end CPU's were released first.

With the gap between Ryzen and TR so large even before they push TR beyond 32C, I don't see that a 17% IPC uplift makes Ryzen 4000 interesting to many who actually use what HEDT has to offer; which of course is more than just cores.
So I don't see the staggered release significantly impacting TR desirability.

 

[Undesirable]

Is there anything wrong with the Asrock trx40 taichi socket strx4 ?HAd a Taichi board on my old Ryzen 1700X .

Like the fact they supply a expansion board for 4 more M2 drives as i run 4 already on my 29050X system .

Thanks

There's nothing massively wrong with it, but I've seen a roundup video where the chief complaint is the layout of the PCIE slots and lack of connectivity at the back. On a more positive note, it's got the best VRM / chipset cooling of the lot, by the looks of it. I believe it's standard ATX as opposed to the larger E-ATX which most TRX4 boards favour, so I guess they had to compromise somewhere.

 

[Matrix]

There's nothing massively wrong with it, but I've seen a roundup video where the chief complaint is the layout of the PCIE slots and lack of connectivity at the back. On a more positive note, it's got the best VRM / chipset cooling of the lot, by the looks of it. I believe it's standard ATX as opposed to the larger E-ATX which most TRX4 boards favour, so I guess they had to compromise somewhere.

Thanks for your reply I didn’t notice it wasn’t a e-atx board .

Back to looking at the Strix and Aorus Master again then .

Thanks

 

[Undesirable]

Thanks for your reply I didn’t notice it wasn’t a e-atx board .

Back to looking at the Strix and Aorus Master again then .

Thanks

The ASUS Strix TRX40 happens to be ATX form factor too. The main compromise being that it features an m.2 slot that sticks out vertically.

 

[Matrix]

The ASUS Strix TRX40 happens to be ATX form factor too. The main compromise being that it features an m.2 slot that sticks out vertically.

I did read that the m.2 slot is vertical looks very weird that to me . Sure it’s fine but never used one like that before .

Decisions decisions!

 

[Destination]

It has 3 slots
the third of which mounts vertically, to allow easy access when everything else is in place
look at the review luke did of the board on kitguru, it'll tell you all the pros and cons

 

[MR.B]

Is there anything wrong with the Asrock trx40 taichi socket strx4 ?HAd a Taichi board on my old Ryzen 1700X .

Like the fact they supply a expansion board for 4 more M2 drives as i run 4 already on my 29050X system .

Thanks

I very nearly got one... A competitor was selling it for around £380-ish, which i don't know if that's a mistake or if the rest of the UK retailers are just ripping us off as usual (probably). They've since raised the price by £100 so it's more in-line with the scammers, err i mean the other UK retailers. I see a similar thing happen with a Gigabyte board (Pro Wifi) where it was far cheaper than other retailers, then they raised the price after realising everywhere else charged way more.

The Taichi is a great board apart from the lack of USB inputs on the back and how it doesn't look as good as some other boards, but feature wise i'd say it's overall better than the Asus Strix TRX40-E even though that's what i ended up getting. If you plan to get more NVMe drives and don't need a ton of USB inputs i'd go for the Taichi. This guy really likes it.

 

[Rainmaker]

Happy new year all

Just wondering are thermal pads any good ? I've always used paste ( thermal grizzly ) but seen the pads and wondered if anyone uses them ?

Like this for a threadripper https://www.overclockers.co.uk/thermal-grizzly-carbonaut-thermal-pad-51-68-0.2-mm-th-02f-tg.html

Thanks

I’m using the TR Carbonaut pad with no issues to report. The temps are as good as they’ll get and install was easy. They require gentle handling but nothing extreme (ie keep away sharp tweezers and such and you’ll be fine).