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Tom B · 30 May 2017 at 13:29

interesting. Does a larger socket mean better cooling as heat will be spread over a larger area?

Burr · 30 May 2017 at 13:30

Frankly, i think any CPU above $500 should be soldered let alone $1000. Yeah, if AMD can undercut Skylake-X like they did with Ryzen against mainstream Kaby Lake then it'll be a bloodbath.

benjii · 30 May 2017 at 13:31

Tom B said:
interesting. Does a larger socket mean better cooling as heat will be spread over a larger area?

No, because with a larger socket comes a CPU with a bigger die, which generates more heat.

HeX · 30 May 2017 at 13:33

What is that DIMM2 all about on the Zenith board?

RSR · 30 May 2017 at 13:34

HeX said:
What is that DIMM2 all about on the Zenith board?

It's a riser card for dual M.2 SSD's

https://www.techpowerup.com/229448/asus-dimm-2-is-an-m-2-riser-card

spoffle · 30 May 2017 at 13:34

nomadd said:
Must remember to buy a new pair of long-nose pliers...

There's a real art to straightening bent CPU pins these days.

A scalpel and magnifying glass works best for fixing bent socket pins.

HeX · 30 May 2017 at 13:39

RSR said:
It's a riser card for dual M.2 SSD's

https://www.techpowerup.com/229448/asus-dimm-2-is-an-m-2-riser-card

Ah, well that explains that one. Cheers.

Tom B · 30 May 2017 at 16:46

Honestly can't wait to see benchmarks over the next month. I'm either going Skylake-X or Threadripper. Looking at this and probably prices, it'll be my first AMD CPU since my Athlon XP 1800!

WingZero30 · 30 May 2017 at 17:20

Is there a possibility that AMD could up the core count on the threadripper from 16 cores in response to 7980XE ?

Noxia · 30 May 2017 at 17:24

I know there is always the debate about if multi core is really utilised well for gaming but that's when talking about 4/8. Is this CPU going to be aimed primarily at people who do video encoding and 3d work?

haszek · 30 May 2017 at 17:26

64 PCIE lanes, no lever on the socket (screwd in)

SupraWez · 30 May 2017 at 17:41

haszek said:
64 PCIE lanes, no lever on the socket (screwd in)

Beat me to it, just watching now

Chuk_Chuk · 30 May 2017 at 17:44

WingZero30 said:
Is there a possibility that AMD could up the core count on the threadripper from 16 cores in response to 7980XE ?

I believe it is the same socket as EPYC, so yes but considering the huge difference in PCIE lanes. I think it would take a lot of work.

N19h7m4r3 · 30 May 2017 at 18:11

Tom B said:
interesting. Does a larger socket mean better cooling as heat will be spread over a larger area?

benjii said:
No, because with a larger socket comes a CPU with a bigger die, which generates more heat.

Threadripper doesn't have a single large die, it's just a cut down naples.

Here's the Noctua coolers showing up for Threadripper.

https://www.hardocp.com/news/2017/0...ex_has_amd_threadripper_heat_sinks_more_rumor

Tom B · 30 May 2017 at 18:18

N19h7m4r3 said:
Threadripper doesn't have a single large die, it's just a cut down naples.

Interesting, so what does that mean for cooling?

N19h7m4r3 · 30 May 2017 at 18:21

Tom B said:
Interesting, so what does that mean for cooling?

You'll need one of these new coolers from Noctua, or a new AIO that supports that massive socket.

The TDP on Threadripper is still good though, and lower than Intels. So it should still be cooler than Intel's new upcoming Skylake X which isn't even soldered.

As you can see the base on those coolers is massive compared to the likes of a D15 by comparison.

ToTheMax · 30 May 2017 at 18:28

haszek said:
64 PCIE lanes, no lever on the socket (screwd in)

Looks monstrous, love it!

smogsy · 30 May 2017 at 18:55

10GB lovely! NVME slots lovely......... want now here my $$$$

Dirk Diggler · 30 May 2017 at 18:59

Shiny ... check.
New ... check.
Powah ... check.

*bookmarked.

Panos · 30 May 2017 at 19:21

benjii said:
No, because with a larger socket comes a CPU with a bigger die, which generates more heat.

Actually not the case with AMD.

The Ryzen 9 lineup are just multiple CCXs on the came "CPU" connected via the infinity fabric and plenty of space between them. The 16 core one is literally 2 Ryzen 7 chips together.
Someone showed picture above from the 32core naples which is 4 Ryzen 7 CPUs wired together. So you see the big gaps between the cores.

All that big surface area does allow for better cooling. So that monster Asus board which already fell in love with, with a huge monoblock from EK, going to look absolutely stunning on a TT P5 case with a Vega Dual GPU sitting vertically (with the TT premium cable ofc).
In a nice dual loop making the letters R and V

in orange and red respectively (Ryzen logo is orange, Vega is red).

(yes yes already made the plans and preparations

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