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IMO 32GB is the new 16GB.
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AMD to unveil Zen 4 CPUs at CES 2022
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In this Spiderman performance review, they only used 2x8 DDR4 modules it seems. The game recommends 32GB with RT enabled, but they still seem to be getting minimums of 65FPS or higher, even on 4k Ultra:
www.dsogaming.com
Maybe the prices of DDR5 6000 MT/s 16GB modules will come down further, then I suppose it could become a mute point...
Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered PC Performance Analysis
Powered by Insomniac's proprietary engine, it's time now to benchmark Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered and see how it performs on the PC platform.
www.dsogaming.com
Maybe the prices of DDR5 6000 MT/s 16GB modules will come down further, then I suppose it could become a mute point...
Not with amd x3D tech with the cpus
removes the ram latency thingy hit
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In this Spiderman performance review, they only used 2x8 DDR4 modules it seems. The game recommends 32GB with RT enabled, but they still seem to be getting minimums of 65FPS or higher, even on 4k Ultra:
Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered PC Performance Analysis
Powered by Insomniac's proprietary engine, it's time now to benchmark Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered and see how it performs on the PC platform.
Maybe the prices of DDR5 6000 MT/s 16GB modules will come down further, then I suppose it could become a mute point...
What's interesting is the load on that 9900K, that looks like around 80% load, on an 8 core 16 thread CPU.
It's probably the usual rushed unoptimised console port but it still shows why going 8 cores adds a bit of headroom for the future.
Yes a game designed for a 8 core game console is also able to utilise 8 cores on PC, a very big revelation indeed
If you showed me a 12 or 16 core CPU running at 80% load in a game I'd be more wowed, but an 8 core cpu? That's normal
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So a 80% cpu load norm for games really at 8 core … so if that is normal say … what happens if an antivirus in background starts or some background download or something since it’s windows as not console … would there be spikes or dips in fps?
Never really thought about this issue … I’m coming from 4 core 4 thread and ps5 to a zen 4 8 core … should I be reconsidering a 12/16 core ?
So you don't want games to use your cpu? Just get rid of the cpu then
Not for games
Remember that every zen 4 core is much faster than 9900k, and HT is more efficient. 8 cores 16 threads is enough
To note: owing to higher power budget and higher boost clocks, I expect 12 and 16 core Zen 4 to benchmark slightly ahead of 8 core in games, maybe up to 5%.
Well, reviewers with their clean installs actually have been distorting this for ages.
Just like most reviewers don't bench multiplayer "because it's not consistent".
However with background task or multiplayer (or both) is precisely when extra cores are required. Also what might run fine on a 16GB machine without background processes might require more RAM when other things are going on.
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Really considering instead of getting a 7800xt to stick with my 5700xt and go for a 16 core zen 4 and 32gb ram … I keep changing my options (I game at 1440p and I do like to sometimes use my 4k TV
Also considering to try stream also.
Hence I try to go one step above what is considered adequate to allow for old installs or other demands on the CPU.
this doesnt seem right 10900k shouldnt be bottlenecking gpu this badly ??
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Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered | RTX 3090 & i9-10900k | 1440p | DLSS
Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered | RTX 3090 & i9-10900k | 1440p | DLSS
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Caporegime
Its constantly streaming in and out data, that puts a high load on the CPU.
Game worlds are getting larger and more complex, its better hardware, much much better hardware that's giving developers to space to develop this, its progress.
I always hated the "You only need four cores" argument, its so short sighted. Four core CPU's worked fine for all those years because that is all they had to work with.
One developer from the 1990's has thrown all caution to the wind and is making the game he always wanted to make, a PC exclusive almost irregardless of current hardware and cost, not for some noble act but for his own selfish reasons and the millions sick of the same crap regurgitated over and over again willing to finance it, because just do it, build the game we all want.
CIG were asset streaming in a giant 64Bit World coordinate system back in 2016, its only in the last couple of years that other developers have discoverd that for them selves or looked at what CIG are doing and thought "oh that opens up a lot of possibilities" Sony were talking about it with Ratchet and Clank as if it was a revolutionary new way of developing game worlds.
CIG cracked it in 2015 and published this.
The problem with that is the first image, the solution to it is the second image.
Buckle up, because games are about to get a whole lot better now the hardware can handle it...
2017, 4690K vs Ryzen 1600.
Game worlds are getting larger and more complex, its better hardware, much much better hardware that's giving developers to space to develop this, its progress.
I always hated the "You only need four cores" argument, its so short sighted. Four core CPU's worked fine for all those years because that is all they had to work with.
One developer from the 1990's has thrown all caution to the wind and is making the game he always wanted to make, a PC exclusive almost irregardless of current hardware and cost, not for some noble act but for his own selfish reasons and the millions sick of the same crap regurgitated over and over again willing to finance it, because just do it, build the game we all want.
CIG were asset streaming in a giant 64Bit World coordinate system back in 2016, its only in the last couple of years that other developers have discoverd that for them selves or looked at what CIG are doing and thought "oh that opens up a lot of possibilities" Sony were talking about it with Ratchet and Clank as if it was a revolutionary new way of developing game worlds.
CIG cracked it in 2015 and published this.
The problem with that is the first image, the solution to it is the second image.
Buckle up, because games are about to get a whole lot better now the hardware can handle it...
2017, 4690K vs Ryzen 1600.
Soldato
Gosh those planet and terrain textures (although faked) were so much better than now.
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That's Daymar, i'm not so sure. I think it looks better now...
I used Daymar for this, i like the warm lighting for ship views, its stuttery because at the time Shadowplay was being problematic, not that Nvidia ever has problems like this, right? Its the video that's stuttering, not the game, what ever was up with Shadowplay was fixed by the next patch.
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From space, and tbh all the textures are poor on planet where they tile and repeat because for some reason CIG haven't worked out random and seamless texturing which has been a thing for decades.
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Oh the tiling, yes, its because they replaced the distant texture with LOD real-time textures.
Before it was a wrap texture from distance that then transitioned to surface level textures once you got close, they changed it to always showing the ground level textures because using a texture wrap what you see from space was not the same as what you see getting closer, if you use the ground level textures for space too it all matches up but presents a new problem, texture tiling, and yes it can be quite obvious from some views.
They have acknowledged it and are looking at ways of fixing that too.
Soldato
Indeed but you can get LOD real-time textures that can be set seamless and random that would work fine. There for instance is a plug in for UE4 even that did that and would work. I also use it for rendering materials in the 3D models I produce.
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