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AMD to unveil Zen 4 CPUs at CES 2022

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It looks like every Asus X670 board with USB4 (including micro atx) is gonna cost silly money:

That includes the 'Gene' and 'Proart' models.

It's not a big surprise, because the lower end Asus x670 boards are expensive too.

The Gigabyte Aero D seems like it will be the cheapest USB4 board. Has anyone found one that is rumoured to be cheaper?

According to Asus prices are considerably lower. Below was announced by Asus today

ROG CROSSHAIR X670E EXTREME $700
ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO $500
 
I’m excited by the Gene as I love the size of mATX systems. I think this is the first ever Gene for an AMD platform. I remember using a Gene for my original 4790k build when that came out.

Next to the ATX power connector, is that a six pin PCIE connection going in to the motherboard?

 
Gigabyte had some boards branded 'Vision' that had some thunderbolt 4 ports (on an older Intel chipset). Wonder if there will be something similar for AM5?
 
I don't understand why we are taking anything these sites say as fact.

They have spent the last few years getting everything consistently wrong, clearly they are just making it up as they go along, the BIOS thing is just a cheap way to save face after getting it wrong again, at one time or another AMD needed to work on their BIOS, so there we go, we would have been right if not for AMD's BIOS ineptitude, its plausible, just say that.

According to Asus prices are considerably lower. Below was announced by Asus today

ROG CROSSHAIR X670E EXTREME $700
ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO $500

Yup, everyone is cutting prices for the upcoming generation. But at $700 the extreme still looks expensive next to gigabyte as gigabyte cut their extreme down to $500
 
Yup, everyone is cutting prices for the upcoming generation. But at $700 the extreme still looks expensive next to gigabyte as gigabyte cut their extreme down to $500
Yeah but $700 is less than their previous gen and much less then the Intel version then. Has anyone got link about the prices mind. Google generally just brings up the silly figures from the previous 5 days.
 
I’m excited by the Gene as I love the size of mATX systems. I think this is the first ever Gene for an AMD platform. I remember using a Gene for my original 4790k build when that came out.

Next to the ATX power connector, is that a six pin PCIE connection going in to the motherboard?
That does look quite good. I used to have a Maximus V Gene and always liked the size, especially after moving to full ATX with my next mobo. I could be wrong, but it looks like there may only be 1 x M.2 onboard with the others via an add-in card.

It's strange to see a PS/2 port, I haven't seen that on their other X670E boards.
 
Gene looks good. 2 DIMMs and rich features great for overclocking
I still have Gene VIII working perfectly
But the price is not serious
 
That does look quite good. I used to have a Maximus V Gene and always liked the size, especially after moving to full ATX with my next mobo. I could be wrong, but it looks like there may only be 1 x M.2 onboard with the others via an add-in card.

It's strange to see a PS/2 port, I haven't seen that on their other X670E boards.

I think there’s a total of three M.2’s :

‘The motherboard features two DDR5 DIMM slots, a total of four SATA III ports, and an additional PCIe Gen 4.0 x1 slot. There are two M.2 slots on the board itself whereas two additional ports are provided by the Gen-Z.2 card which fits within the slot next to the DDR5 DIMMs.’

2x 5.0 and 1x 4.0
 
7700x shows up in Cinebench, 25% faster than 5800x in both single and multithreaded

But this improvement doesn't look like it's enough to beat Raptor lake with the 13700k beating the 7700x in both single and multithread. To be fair the difference is minor in single thread, with 13700k 5% ahead over the 7700x but in multithread there is no comparison and it's probable that even the 13600k will easily beat the 7700x in multithread

 
I'm thinking we won't see lower cost thunderbolt 4/usb4 x670 boards until next year (or later). On LGA1700, there's the Asus Prime Z690-A (DDR5), with 2 rear thunderbolt 4 ports, priced <£300.

So far for AM5, there's the Asus Prime X670-P (wifi /non wifi versions), with no thunderbolt 4 ports.
 
I'm thinking we won't see lower cost thunderbolt 4/usb4 x670 boards until next year (or later). On LGA1700, there's the Asus Prime Z690-A, with 2 rear thunderbolt 4 ports, priced <£300.

So far, there's the Asus Prime X670-P (wifi /non wifi versions), with no thunderbolt 4 ports.

Users will need to weigh up the cost of the platform indeed, with x670 maybe the CPU performance won't quite match Intel and the upfront price may be a bit higher but it's highly likely that the x670 board will be able to slot in next years v cache zen4 models and also zen5
 
I think a lot of people will just buy B650 or lower spec x670 boards, forgo features like usb4. Prices on the higher spec boards should fall a bit, next year.

Edit - I got it wrong, the Asus Prime Z690-A only has a Thunderbolt 4 header (but is still sold as supporting thunderbolt 4...).

There is an ASRock LGA1700 board with a single Thunderbolt 4 port that can be found for less than £300, as follows:
ASRock Z690 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB4

In general though, it seems like it will remain a premium feature.
 
Asus says all of its ROG AM5 boards will support Dynamic OC Switcher

 
7700x shows up in Cinebench, 25% faster than 5800x in both single and multithreaded

But this improvement doesn't look like it's enough to beat Raptor lake with the 13700k beating the 7700x in both single and multithread. To be fair the difference is minor in single thread, with 13700k 5% ahead over the 7700x but in multithread there is no comparison and it's probable that even the 13600k will easily beat the 7700x in multithread


It comes down to price, its listed there at $299.

The 5700X is £300
The 12700K is £420
The 12600K is £300

Unless Intel slash their prices on the 13 series its going to be very competitive.
 
+26% in MT, with the same core count.

If 10% of that is IPC its running at 5.4Ghz, that's 5.4Ghz Multithreaded in Cinebench.

If we consider the 5950X only runs at about 4.0Ghz MT in Cinebench and scores 26,000, with +10% IPC at 5.4Ghz the 7950X would score about 38,500.

If true i think it quite impressive how much more performance AMD have managed without changing the core count.
 
It's not a surprise to see a lower frequency for P95 vs CB. That's the case for Intel and AMD. P95 small/avx2 draws a lot more current and thus heat compard to CB.

Certainly if you're trying to lock frequecies, if its anything like Zen 3 it will dynamically boost as high as it can depending on how much current the CPU is pulling, heat, load, ecte.... if you try to lock it to a fixed frequency and voltage like an old FX-8350 it'll just fail.
 
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