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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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You'll be keeping your Fury's for another year then?

Be going Nvidia when i upgrade.

My memory is a bit fuzzy, so I could be wrong but I thought NVidia released 1080 first and then it was 1070, 1060 and the rest.

Yeah the 1080 was first on May 27th, 1070 was 10th June, then it was the 1060 in July, TXP August.
 
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Even if Vega is the best card amd have ever released upon release?

"the best card AMD has ever released" isn't saying that much.

The point is how well it does compared to what NVidia already has ( which has already been out a while ) and how much it costs as well.

The point is are they still playing catch up or do they actually jump ahead for a change? And not just in Vulkan and Doom.
 
I am not a fan boy of either brand, but Vega in june is to late, to compare it to a year old 1080 is kind of saying we are catching you NV. even if it beats the 1080 by a margin it would have to be by 20% to even get people to think about an upgrade from the 1080. close to a titan I would like to see. but we have been here before with AMD and its never quite whats speculated.

Untill we see vendor hardware with AMD drivers and performance charts with different games its all just speculation, Doom on Vulcan is no where near broad enough to hype speculation further. all the hype was the same last time, endless speculation on performance.

I do hope AMD pull it out of the bag like the old 9700pro did in the day to the GTX 4600ti ( still have one of them )
 
Volta is not out until some time in 2018 so its not as if Nvidia have thier new card around the corner.

So much salt in this thread.
 
Volta is not out until some time in 2018 so its not as if Nvidia have thier new card around the corner.

So much salt in this thread.

Don't worry even if AMD came out with a Vega10 which is 1% slower than a Pascal Titan X and was £500 it would be AMD is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.

I am more interested in what they will have at the £300 to £450 level as they need a card which can run games at qHD reasonably well.
 
Indeed, makes for great reading though :D

I also love how some seem to think that the majority of PC gamers have 1080's and titans in their systems... Outside of these enthusiast forums, most people have 970 or even lesser GPUs.

Exactly... GPU over £350 are a fraction of the market, like single digit percentage points and 80% of those are Nvidia so there is no point really in AMD investing in mega expensive GPU's, they don't get that investment back.

I'd rather they invested everything they can into sub £400 GPU's.

A lot of people who want GTX 1080 beaters are actually Nvidia buyers and the only reason they want GTX 1080 beating AMD cards is so Nvidia release the GTX 1080TI and drop the price of the GTX 1080.
 
Don't worry even if AMD came out with a Vega10 which is 1% slower than a Pascal Titan X and was £500 it would be AMD is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.

I am more interested in what they will have at the £300 to £450 level as they need a card which can run games at qHD reasonably well.

Bets on who will be next to create the yearly AMD are doomed thread? :D :p

A lot of people who want GTX 1080 beaters are actually Nvidia buyers and the only reason they want GTX 1080 beating AMD cards is so Nvidia release the GTX 1080TI and drop the price of the GTX 1080.

Yup unfortunately this is the case for many people on here :o :( At least a few are open about this unlike most others though...

Personally I have no intentions on spending more than £300 on a GPU regardless of brand, especially nowadays as I don't game anywhere as much, in fact, I probably wouldn't even be spending more than £200 on a GPU now as there are hardly any games coming out this year that interest me :( I would rather spend £300 on a ps 4 pro as it has at least 5 or so exclusive games, which I do want to play...
 
Exactly... GPU over £350 are a fraction of the market, like single digit percentage points and 80% of those are Nvidia so there is no point really in AMD investing in mega expensive GPU's, they don't get that investment back.

I'd rather they invested everything they can into sub £400 GPU's.

A lot of people who want GTX 1080 beaters are actually Nvidia buyers and the only reason they want GTX 1080 beating AMD cards is so Nvidia release the GTX 1080TI and drop the price of the GTX 1080.

Which is why i stated months ago, that i hope amd can make a small enough chip that is cheap enough to produce with hbm2 or gddr5x, so that they can have a double slice at mobile and desktop, just like gp104.

Gp104 has already done the damage and I am interested in how Amd will fight it.
 
A lot of people who want GTX 1080 beaters are actually Nvidia buyers and the only reason they want GTX 1080 beating AMD cards is so Nvidia release the GTX 1080TI and drop the price of the GTX 1080.

If they keep this attitude then eventually there will come a time when there is only one gpu maker and then they can pay through the nose or wait for a very long time before prices come down. Maybe that's what they deserve.
 
Exactly... GPU over £350 are a fraction of the market, like single digit percentage points and 80% of those are Nvidia so there is no point really in AMD investing in mega expensive GPU's, they don't get that investment back.

I'd rather they invested everything they can into sub £400 GPU's.

A lot of people who want GTX 1080 beaters are actually Nvidia buyers and the only reason they want GTX 1080 beating AMD cards is so Nvidia release the GTX 1080TI and drop the price of the GTX 1080.

I've always been under the impression that the core modules on a chip scale across the entire line. I'm pretty sure that Pascal is the same from the 1050 all the way to the 1080/Titan and it's just a matter of some changes to the memory / bus and higher counts of shaders/TMUs/ROPs that make the difference. In that sense, whatever AMD do for Vega 10 will carry over to Vega 11 as well.

I think the reason they're rolling out the big chip first is to close that gap where they have no competing product and also to make a (time) gap between small Vega and Polaris.

Besides, right now Polaris is a good chip and compares favourably to the 1060 (even though actual sales don't reflect that). Not much AMD can do about that, but they certainly can (and must) release high-end GPUs soon.
 
If they keep this attitude then eventually there will come a time when there is only one gpu maker and then they can pay through the nose or wait for a very long time before prices come down. Maybe that's what they deserve.

just because a couple people make a statement like that it doesn't mean it's true. People always buy for a reason ( or several ) and if many don't buy AMD it is AMD's own fault.

It's a free market after all, whoever offers the best for a person that's who will get the sale. No one is going to buy a card just to keep a company in business.

AMD better sort out their stuff and start offering what people want, that's what's going to keep them alive, not a few people on a random forum making "definitive" statements and trying to make others feel guilty for their purchases.
 
If they keep this attitude then eventually there will come a time when there is only one gpu maker and then they can pay through the nose or wait for a very long time before prices come down. Maybe that's what they deserve.

Sadly they do... A big chunk of 'buyers' are 10 year olds that drive their parents crazy over getting a PC with an Nvidia card because that's the best one (whether that's true or not). In this demographic 'coolness' is the main factor and right now Nvidia is cool whereas AMD is lame.

The only way to flip this over is for AMD to consistently start beating Nvidia year-on-year for a long (5 years?) time. Then you will get a generation of 10-15-year olds that grew up knowing AMD=good / Nvidia=bad in that sort of brainwashed young-teenager mentality where it's not a matter of reasoning based on logic, but more a matter of being part of the 'cool group'. That whole mindshare thing is a nice way of stating this.
 
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