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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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If AMD can out-engineer (software and hardware) Nvidia that will be the time.

Its always surprised me that after the ATi acquisition that AMD hasn't leveraged that yet. Ok Intel make strong CPUs and Nvidia make strong GPUs but where in all this is the AMD answer that owns the floor? I always feel like its coming but it never does....

I'm going to give AMD until the first 1080Ti reviews come out, if they are still trying the 'enjoy the silence' (Depeche Mode for those who's life is too young for real music) then we shall part ways... sorry but enough is enough.
 
BigBANGtheory said:
If AMD can out-engineer (software and hardware) Nvidia that will be the time.

Its always surprised me that after the ATi acquisition that AMD hasn't leveraged that yet. Ok Intel make strong CPUs and Nvidia make strong GPUs but where in all this is the AMD answer that owns the floor? I always feel like its coming but it never does....

I'm going to give AMD until the first 1080Ti reviews come out, if they are still trying the 'enjoy the silence' (Depeche Mode for those who's life is too young for real music) then we shall part ways... sorry but enough is enough.
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Just buy a 1080Ti, you obviously have your heart set on it.
 
BigBANGtheory said:
If AMD can out-engineer (software and hardware) Nvidia that will be the time.

Its always surprised me that after the ATi acquisition that AMD hasn't leveraged that yet. Ok Intel make strong CPUs and Nvidia make strong GPUs but where in all this is the AMD answer that owns the floor? I always feel like its coming but it never does....

I'm going to give AMD until the first 1080Ti reviews come out, if they are still trying the 'enjoy the silence' (Depeche Mode for those who's life is too young for real music) then we shall part ways... sorry but enough is enough.
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Just buy a 1080Ti mate. Lol. We all know Vega won't be here no earlier than May, likely June.

Random Guy Esq. said:
So they have four days to announce something? If you're reading this Lisa, get the finger out!!
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You know Lisa has this thread in her favourites, she even has it open all the time in a tab and set it to auto refresh every 5 seconds. Lol :p
 
Part of my dream last night involved finding out that Vega 11 was going to cost £1800 because it was so damn powerful. I was depressed that I'd have to settle for an RX 480. :/

Also, I'm a bit confused by Guru 3D saying that the Radeon 560, 570, and 580 are coming in April, but all three will just be rebadged R9 4x0 cards with slight clock bumps. AMD's own Capsaicin & Cream livestream stated Vega cards will literally be called "Radeon RX Vega" (similar to the R9 Fury), which makes me wonder what the point of the 5xx series is. Have we ever seen an entire line-up of cards be rebrands before? :confused:
 
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BigBANGtheory said:
I'm going to give AMD until the first 1080Ti reviews come out, if they are still trying the 'enjoy the silence' (Depeche Mode for those who's life is too young for real music) then we shall part ways... sorry but enough is enough.
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If nVidia did Freesync I'd buy a Ti in a heartbeat! Sadly, I have to wait til June/July :(
 
DragonQ said:
what the point of the 5xx series is. Have we ever seen an entire line-up of cards be rebrands before? :confused:
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Isn't 3xx fully rebrands? 390 from 290 and 380 from 285 and 370 from 270. With Fury having no index
The only excuse for that is if 14nm process was much improved, for better clocks/power.

I'm buying top Vega no matter what. Would buy first possible preorder, but want to see differences in cooling between manufacturers.
 
Isnt like that tick tock thing, its an advancement but its more about their internal production advancing then anything a consumer will notice a jump forward. Perhaps its cheaper to make, easier for them to sell cheap over the long term and basically they squash 1050 by nvidia with a more efficient card
 
Rroff said:
HBM2 isn't cheap - competing with GDDR5 and GDDR5X cards with HBM2 isn't going to go well profit wise. The console income is good but its not highly lucrative for AMD (despite what some would claim) and they can't afford to be bleeding from that to largely subsidise GPU development and production going forward.

Sales into the 1070 and 1080 arena are starting to slow up or there wouldn't be a chance of nVidia making moves with the 1080ti to shuffle prices down there without external pressure from AMD.
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But if AMD was in so much trouble profit wise etc why would a company risk building GPUs we new hardware that might effect sales?
It doesn't make sense to me, surely HBM2 is much cheaper now that HBM was?

You would think if AMD was in a really bad situation profit wise, why not just use GDDR5?

I think AMDs wealth is a lot higher than people might actually believe on here.
 
shankly1985 said:
But if AMD was in so much trouble profit wise etc why would a company risk building GPUs we new hardware that might effect sales?
It doesn't make sense to me, surely HBM2 is much cheaper now that HBM was?

You would think if AMD was in a really bad situation profit wise, why not just use GDDR5?

I think AMDs wealth is a lot higher than people might actually believe on here.
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I'm not saying they are in so much trouble profit wise - but they need to be doing the right things going forwards and making the money they need to be able to keep going forward - and hitting the saturated 1070-1080 spot simply isn't going to do it - none the least nVidia is dropping the 1070-1080 prices with the 1080ti drop which tends to both imply that sales are dropping off in that market but also means AMD is going to have to cut their margins even more to compete in that market - which isn't going to go a long way towards repaying the considerable amount of investment in a new architecture like Vega never mind funding development of future architectures on increasingly costly smaller nodes and neither can they afford to keep bleeding money from other divisions.
 
Rroff said:
I'm not saying they are in so much trouble profit wise - but they need to be doing the right things going forwards and making the money they need to be able to keep going forward - and hitting the saturated 1070-1080 spot simply isn't going to do it - none the least nVidia is dropping the 1070-1080 prices with the 1080ti drop which tends to both imply that sales are dropping off in that market but also means AMD is going to have to cut their margins even more to compete in that market - which isn't going to go a long way towards repaying the considerable amount of investment in a new architecture like Vega never mind funding development of future architectures on increasingly costly smaller nodes and neither can they afford to keep bleeding money from other divisions.
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I didn't mean to come across like you was saying that. That post was a general overall of what most people believe.
 
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