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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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opethdisciple said:
Just a shame that based on the monitor I buy, it will lock me in to AMD or Nvidia for quite a while!
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It does and it doesn't, What needs to be remembered is the premium G-sync requires and I've often heard reports of G-sync monitors not playing nicely with AMD gpu, In comparison there is barely any Freesync premium (although that may change with Freesync 2) and from what I've read the monitors run happily with either brand of gpu. Basically while it does make you lean towards an AMD gpu it doesn't require the same money investment as G-sync, If you do go Freesync and decide on getting an Nvidia gpu in the future it won't feel like you've wasted a couple of hundred quid, There's also the possibility that Nvidia will support Freesync in the future (I believe they will if their market share goes down quite a bit), in comparison AMD will never support G-sync.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
Can confirm that, been running a 980Ti on my Freesync monitor for quite some time now. No issues at all.
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Another point in Freesync's favour is that both Intel's onboard graphics and AMD APU's support it and for many people that'll matter too. If you really don't want to minimise your options Freesync's an easy winner.
 
nashathedog said:
Another point in Freesync's favour is that both Intel's onboard graphics and AMD APU's support it and for many people that'll matter too. If you really don't want to minimise your options Freesync's an easy winner.
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The new Xbox Scorpio also supports it, now the PS5 just needs it as well, and Freesync will be everywhere!
 
KillBoY_UK said:
Does it? I can't find any confirmation on this. Supporting HDMI V2.1 does not equal freesycn support. The hardware is capable for sure but support is different.
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Think its another of those things where someone has assumed/made it up and others have repeated it as fact :s
 
KillBoY_UK said:
Does it? I can't find any confirmation on this. Supporting HDMI V2.1 does not equal freesycn support. The hardware is capable for sure but support is different.
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The chap from Digital Foundry posted it on twitter.

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So, yeah, Scorpio seems like a very strong box. Forced 16x AF and v-sync + FreeSync/Adaptive Refresh support are also very cool features.

— John Linneman (@dark1x) April 6, 2017
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KillBoY_UK said:
Does it? I can't find any confirmation on this. Supporting HDMI V2.1 does not equal freesycn support. The hardware is capable for sure but support is different.
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All I can find is Game Mode VRR as part of the specifications. No idea if it's mandatory or not but it's mentioned in the main specification list. Remember Freesnyc is just AMD's name for supporting Variable Refresh Rate standards (VRR). If future TV's support VRR Nvidia would lose potential sales if they refuse to support it. TVs will not be getting G-Sync modules as standard.

From http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_2_1/index.aspx

HDMI Specification 2.1 Feature Highlights Include:

  • Higher Video Resolutions support a range of higher resolutions and faster refresh rates including 8K60Hz and 4K120Hz for immersive viewing and smooth fast-action detail.
  • Dynamic HDR ensures every moment of a video is displayed at its ideal values for depth, detail, brightness, contrast, and wider color gamuts—on a scene-by-scene or even a frame-by-frame basis.
  • 48G cables enable up to 48Gbps bandwidth for uncompressed HDMI 2.1 feature support including 8K video with HDR. The cable is backwards compatible with earlier versions of the HDMI Specification and can be used with existing HDMI devices.
  • eARC supports the most advanced audio formats such as object-based audio, and enables advanced audio signal control capabilities including device auto-detect.
  • Game Mode VRR features variable refresh rate, which enables a 3D graphics processor to display the image at the moment it is rendered for more fluid and better detailed gameplay, and for reducing or eliminating lag, stutter, and frame tearing.
 
From the original spec of HDMI doesn't state VRR is optional. So all HDMI 2.1 TVs will support it.

Also makes no sense why not. The hardware capable od dealing with it going to be there. Giving them more reasons to the marketing department to argue why new TVs are the new must.

Same applies to the display port 1.3/1.4. The hardware is there to support variable refresh rates. But is optional to support it, in software level.

So we have products perfectly capable to work with a freesync monitor variable refresh rate, not doing so because of what ever. (yes pointing the finger to NV)
 
Gibbo said:
I Am in Rome! :)
AMD are in Rome!

Put the two together and what I have seen I am very impressed by!

Nuff said! :)
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Anyone think it is likely that a Vega card will be available for around the old 1070 price? (300 to 400). i.e. should I sell my 1070 now in the hope of something reasonably priced and decent performance from AMD before the 1070 becomes worthless.
 
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