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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1
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Yup no doubt they will be although I don't think I would want to wait any longer.... let alone pay nvidia's prices....
Nah sorry, I've seen a 1080 for £300* so vega is doomed now, has to come in at £200 or else AMD are doomed....
*was sold on ebay from some seller with no ratings
Yeah tbf we got Ryzen at exchange + 20% but that still leaves the RX Vega "Nova" at £550 which is still £130 less than the average sale price of the 1080Ti let alone the RRP.
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I wonder how many pro-duo units AMD actually sold? Can't be more than a handful. I only know AMD Matt had one.
For me its a massive no no, four figure sum (likely) and only works in certain games? pffft. No thanks.
I reported on that here before WCCFT even posted haha!
They're taking forum and reddit posts again!
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/30777458/
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Thread has turned into some good comedy:
People asked to name places where they can get a 1080 for £400 - Clearly can't name (due to OcUK rules) but others find it but the rainforest is now a dodgy place, so not allowed to use those.
Vega will be a fail if it doesn't beat the 1080
Vega is a fail if it costs more than $50
If Vega is faster than a 1080Ti, power consumption will be used to define the winner and not raw fps
A slow news day again then I see
People asked to name places where they can get a 1080 for £400 - Clearly can't name (due to OcUK rules) but others find it but the rainforest is now a dodgy place, so not allowed to use those.
Vega will be a fail if it doesn't beat the 1080
Vega is a fail if it costs more than $50
If Vega is faster than a 1080Ti, power consumption will be used to define the winner and not raw fps
A slow news day again then I see
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Been that long, they might have to sell em at a loss to those who want them for gaming.
It keeps being said that the places we are seeing 1080s sell for £400 are not reputable...
Yes they are reputable sites, jut because you can't find them, doesn't make them not reputable. eg the rainforest lol.
Whilst I agree that AMD are not going to price their products against "one off deals" eg below the rrp, it isn't relevant. If I can buy a 1080 for £400 and Vega costs £450, I'm buying the 1080. That isn't my problem as the consumer, that is AMDs problem. Comparing RRP means nothing if they are selling at completely different prices. The only price that matters is what I can buy it for.
I understand you arguably might need to use RRP when comparing price to performance ratio, but even then, that's questionable.
Yes they are reputable sites, jut because you can't find them, doesn't make them not reputable. eg the rainforest lol.
Whilst I agree that AMD are not going to price their products against "one off deals" eg below the rrp, it isn't relevant. If I can buy a 1080 for £400 and Vega costs £450, I'm buying the 1080. That isn't my problem as the consumer, that is AMDs problem. Comparing RRP means nothing if they are selling at completely different prices. The only price that matters is what I can buy it for.
I understand you arguably might need to use RRP when comparing price to performance ratio, but even then, that's questionable.
We need to see what is what really but a complete neutral will generally look at what performs better for the money he/she is going to spend. If Vega is cheaper and performs the same, that should be the winner and the price comparison will be "what is available", so if there is a 1080 from that dodgy rainforest site for £410, that is what will be used for comparison.
I have a calendar event in my diary for right after Computex that says "check OCUK forum RE Vega"Thread has turned into some good comedy:
People asked to name places where they can get a 1080 for £400 - Clearly can't name (due to OcUK rules) but others find it but the rainforest is now a dodgy place, so not allowed to use those.
Vega will be a fail if it doesn't beat the 1080
Vega is a fail if it costs more than $50
If Vega is faster than a 1080Ti, power consumption will be used to define the winner and not raw fps
A slow news day again then I see
Now that would be sensible...yet I'm still here now...
Well Vega at GTX 1070 performance in general better have improved minimums at least. 580 still hanging in there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQz7sklvvy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQz7sklvvy0
Exactly. RRP means nothing, for practically all products. a lot of places write the RRP, but never sell at anywhere near that for the illusion that you are getting a better deal.
I've seen many tech websites do things like this, they show the current available price at the top of the page, and update the review if the price goes up or down and state whether it is still good or bad value.
Street price is much more important.
All this talk of AMD undercutting Nvidia by $100 / $200 $whatever dollars.
You do realise that won't last for more than a day or two? Nvidia do have the ability to lower their prices. Trust me they have a plenty comfortable buffer already there. As usual it's likely they will lower to just above AMD equiv.
You do realise that won't last for more than a day or two? Nvidia do have the ability to lower their prices. Trust me they have a plenty comfortable buffer already there. As usual it's likely they will lower to just above AMD equiv.
The best way for this to work would be having a card that is half way between the 1070 & 1080, competing with the 1070 on price. That is one of the biggest market segments, and would make it a lot more difficult for Nvidia just to cut the price of the 1080, as they would also then have to trash the price on the 1070.
No matter what is said, I buy solely on price to performance, when the price isn't exorbitant so if Vega has a card that is fast and cheaper than the 1080 after the dust settles then I'll add one of those, rather than an additional 1080, depending on its compute performance.
No matter what is said, I buy solely on price to performance, when the price isn't exorbitant so if Vega has a card that is fast and cheaper than the 1080 after the dust settles then I'll add one of those, rather than an additional 1080, depending on its compute performance.
Unfortunately this could well be true.
I'm sure it's a hard decision for the guys at AMD to choose what price they are going to put them at.
The best option is probably just to try and make the best product they can.
Whichever has the best price to performance, even if it's by £10, I will likely choose. It's just harder to factor in what noise and heat is worth in monetary terms and what it's worth to you.
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Good better for us all. Buy whatever GPU fits your needs without over paying stupid prices that Nvidia do.
If AMD is competitive enough performance/price it's a win win for us all.
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