99 fps Vs 81 average (1070 is 20% faster on the aveages) is pretty good for the 580. That game is a total stunner as well and shocked to see such good performance from a UBISoft game!Well Vega at GTX 1070 performance in general better have improved minimums at least. 580 still hanging in there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQz7sklvvy0
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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1
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The best way for this to work would be having a card that is half way between the 1070 & 1080, competing with the 1070 on price. That is one of the biggest market segments, and would make it a lot more difficult for Nvidia just to cut the price of the 1080, as they would also then have to trash the price on the 1070.
No matter what is said, I buy solely on price to performance, when the price isn't exorbitant so if Vega has a card that is fast and cheaper than the 1080 after the dust settles then I'll add one of those, rather than an additional 1080, depending on its compute performance.
Yeah thats true. slot them in between 1070-80 and 1080-80Thai would make sense.
For world problems eh?
Aye, but the same minimums essentially, surprised by that actually. Figured the 1070 would be 20% faster there as well.
Truth be told, I got the game on launch when I still had two 980Tis, and the performance wasn't that great. Ubisoft's team has done a fantastic job on it, especially in their DX12 path as well.
In 1080p with a single 980Ti i use to average around mid 60's with game maxed.
Again....... go and look at the links on the rainforest:
1. is a 3rd party seller through them with "only" 8 ratings in their life time, granted it is fulfilled by said company but I know for a fact that I still wouldn't touch from a seller with so few reviews that happen to look dodgy with their wording, if people know anything about "fake" reviews, they will know what to look for and what to avoid, amazon is by far the worst for this unfortunately, which is why there are so many "fakespot" sites dedicated to outing "fake" reviews i.e.
http://fakespot.com/
2. the other non-deal prices are through other countries/abroad, good prices but have fun with warranty etc. claims and the main thing that makes this even more stupid is that it is comparing a different currency....
I have found all the other deals that people are posting about (except for the sites where you can get a "new" 1080 for <£400 that isn't via some kind of deal....) and yup some are reputable/well reviewed sites but they are "deals", not the standard going rate, which is what people should be using if they want to compare like for like when it comes to price to performance for upcoming vega, which is what this discussion has been all about but people think that deals or/and buying from other countries i.e. in another currency is the "normal" going rate for a 1080 in the UK/pound lel....
Feel free to trust message me all of these epic standard 1080's going for <£440, that aren't
- through another country
- isn't via a voucher code, limited time deal or limited time cashback
Even looking on sites like pricespy, the 1080s that I looked at are above £450 except one but again you have to buy it through USA....
See above.
But that is what this discussion started out about....
price to performance based on RRP i.e. like for like
It is pointless comparing a special one off deal that is currently on literally a handful of sites (of which most are not "normal" i.e. going to buy stuff from abroad.....). Heck you will probably be able to get vega for £50 cheaper than anywhere in the UK through another country too but do you really want the hassle for any future issues that could very well arise? For myself, no thanks and I imagine most people on here would rather buy from a retailer located in the UK with great customer service, which is why many stick to retailers such as ocuk.
1. is a 3rd party seller through them with "only" 8 ratings in their life time, granted it is fulfilled by said company but I know for a fact that I still wouldn't touch from a seller with so few reviews that happen to look dodgy with their wording, if people know anything about "fake" reviews, they will know what to look for and what to avoid, amazon is by far the worst for this unfortunately, which is why there are so many "fakespot" sites dedicated to outing "fake" reviews i.e.
http://fakespot.com/
2. the other non-deal prices are through other countries/abroad, good prices but have fun with warranty etc. claims and the main thing that makes this even more stupid is that it is comparing a different currency....
I have found all the other deals that people are posting about (except for the sites where you can get a "new" 1080 for <£400 that isn't via some kind of deal....) and yup some are reputable/well reviewed sites but they are "deals", not the standard going rate, which is what people should be using if they want to compare like for like when it comes to price to performance for upcoming vega, which is what this discussion has been all about but people think that deals or/and buying from other countries i.e. in another currency is the "normal" going rate for a 1080 in the UK/pound lel....
Feel free to trust message me all of these epic standard 1080's going for <£440, that aren't
- through another country
- isn't via a voucher code, limited time deal or limited time cashback
Even looking on sites like pricespy, the 1080s that I looked at are above £450 except one but again you have to buy it through USA....
See above.
But that is what this discussion started out about....
price to performance based on RRP i.e. like for like
It is pointless comparing a special one off deal that is currently on literally a handful of sites (of which most are not "normal" i.e. going to buy stuff from abroad.....). Heck you will probably be able to get vega for £50 cheaper than anywhere in the UK through another country too but do you really want the hassle for any future issues that could very well arise? For myself, no thanks and I imagine most people on here would rather buy from a retailer located in the UK with great customer service, which is why many stick to retailers such as ocuk.
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DX12 path is fantastic, esp with my Fury card I was getting 70%+ improvements in parts!!! It's a bit jittery using my Ti, but it's been fixed in 1.6.1 so that's fantastic
You are allowed to bring back up to £390 of 'souvenirs' duty and tax free from the U.S.A. So you'll save about 30%
Even If I was to buy something more expensive. I've honestly in the last 15 years of traveling several times a year NEVER been pulled to the side by customs coming from USA. Only once, and it was coming back from Dubai. So... you know...
It absolutely works like that. I think you've
been caught up in the hype of expensive to buy = expensive to manufacture.
They've done it before when they had to with the GTX 200 series cards.
Exactly. People don't care about manufacturer margins, about retail costs, about development costs. They only care what's it going to cost to get the performance/features they want. If Nvidia has made lots of money with 1080 for the year they had a clear market, and can now afford to cut prices and offer that performance for a lot less than AMD (who have not yet made their money back on their Vega investment), then customers will flock to them. Most people will find it difficult to pay a premium for AMD over a price-cut Nvidia card, just because AMD needs to make their money back. That doesn't concern the consumer. It's up to AMD to add value, and price a product based on the reality of the market's current landscape, not what they would like to charge, or what they could have charged if they'd brought out Vega a year ago.
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https://videocardz.com/69424/amd-to-hold-a-press-conference-on-may-31st
Been lurking this forum for ages but never signed up. Waiting for Vega myself.
Been lurking this forum for ages but never signed up. Waiting for Vega myself.
If they have orders available on that date, it'll be a sweet birthday present to myself.
Lodsa is that you? Did you sign up under a new username just to link to Videocardz?
Nah, he'd never post anything pro AMD.
Welcome. I too am "kinda" waiting for Vega. I'm waiting till Q4 anyway. For whatever will run 4K. I favor AMD (most people know that by now) but £/performance wins!
EVGA - warranty goes with you. Plus looking just at 1080Thais looks like an easy £100+ saved. So yeah, seems worthwhile. Plus where I would buy it from would likely have UK support too. BE that Rainforest or the OldSmegg site.
I would happily buy from OCUK, but if im going over there anyway at the time I'm looking to buy. makes sense.
Nope, they have already taking amounts off. They will still have a ceiling point where they can't go below the threshold because of profit margins.
Nothing to do with expensive to buy = expensive to manufacture. It is that relative amount AMD or Nvidia actually get back relative is not anywhere near the thought most have since there are 3 other people taking cuts after them from the headline price and none are making a huge amount on their own, just these 20% make up at each stage adds up quick.
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