AMD Vs. Nvidia Image Quality - Old man yells at cloud

[Vince]

Well if this is a wind up and he is trying to lead me up the garden path he can stick his tree up the Khyber Passage.

Looking again they are all artificial trees as you would expect for a pink and blue tree. Now, a traditional xmas tree is clearly a fir of some description so really they are all a bit rubbish in comparison, by that I mean in terms of them emulating the real thing and actually looking like a tree. With this new evidence in mind I'm going to have to say that RTX, like in most games, is not represented in the above selection of trees. I was sure before but the more I think about it the more I am second guessing myself. If only there was an expert in these here forums.

Edit: I thought it unfair of @bru to leave RTX out of this so have added an rtx option to a tree remarkably similar to tree 4:

 

[bru]

Well if this is a wind up and he is trying to lead me up the garden path he can stick his tree up the Khyber Passage.

Sorry not a wind up but it seems it might be being built up more than i expected it too be.

 

[Vince]

Sorry not a wind up but it seems it might be being built up more than i expected it too be.

I think it might be a good place for me to stop, I saw the trees and got a bit excited.

 

[Nasher]

You forgot to enable DLSS to make the FPS acceptable:

Spoiler

Look at all that ray-tracing!

 

[Vince]

You forgot to enable DLSS to make the FPS acceptable:

Spoiler

Look at all that ray-tracing!

Im about to post a couple of images from my two laptops side by side, one amd one NV and the NV one is much more recent lets see if people can tell me what machine is what. They both have mid/high end gpu's with high end cpu's and both have 4k ips screens. Lets see who can tell which card is which.

 

[TNA]

Lol

 

[kitfit1]

Im about to post a couple of images from my two laptops side by side, one amd one NV and the NV one is much more recent lets see if people can tell me what machine is what. They both have mid/high end gpu's with high end cpu's and both have 4k ips screens. Lets see who can tell which card is which.

Don't often post views or thoughts on anything in here, but do read often. @Vince.....................your a treasure and a damn good laugh

 

[arc@css]

'Subjective' might be the key word here.

 

[Vince]

Don't often post views or thoughts on anything in here, but do read often. @Vince.....................your a treasure and a damn good laugh

Cheers dude, although I can't take credit for bru's idea which is now buried in and among the rtx green spruce and I fear it won't get the acknowledgement it deserves from the relevant experts/authorities.

.....Meanwhile, gentlemen I present you two very similar 4k laptops one with an nvidia GTX970 6gb GRRD5 and the other a Vega M GL 4gb hbm2. I found the most funky 4k background image I could find and displayed it on both screens side by side. I then propped up one screen and it ended up being at an angle (sue me) and turned the brightness on both to 11 all while using my phone (s10) to take the photo in a dark room so straight away im off to a flier. I then opened photoshop and cropped the image to make it a bit harder to tell what machine is what, while simultaneously killing any image quality I had left with the jpg format. This is then, very scientific!:



But which is which? Also to clarify I have a colour calibrated 4k display and the laptops produce similar differences outputting to that via mini dp on one and thunderbolt 3 to DP on the other.

On this subject I assume people in here know the story of HP DreamColour and Shrek? Or why HP has an academy award for it's part in DreamWorks? Colours on screen vs printed vs rendered out has been an industry problem for years so much so that studios in different geographical locations couldn't seem to match "shrek" green properly from one studio to another to the point where there was a whole technology built around it.

 

[TNA]

 

[bru]

Cheers dude, although I can't take credit for bru's idea which is now buried in and among the rtx green spruce and I fear it won't get the acknowledgement it deserves from the relevant experts/authorities.

Yup lost to obscurity. But never mind.


It is a simple concept, different trees looked better to different people. Just as we all look at different women and find them differently appealing.

The point is when shown two images from a game who is to say which is actually better, when some people prefer a softer look and other prefer a sharper one.
Their is no right or wrong it is just different.

Now of course if you really want to press the issue as some have done, at least post up images that are a fair comparison. I'm sorry but images from two different systems with two different monitors are certainly not a fair comparison.

 

[z10m]

Cheers dude, although I can't take credit for bru's idea which is now buried in and among the rtx green spruce and I fear it won't get the acknowledgement it deserves from the relevant experts/authorities.

.....Meanwhile, gentlemen I present you two very similar 4k laptops one with an nvidia GTX970 6gb GRRD5 and the other a Vega M GL 4gb hbm2. I found the most funky 4k background image I could find and displayed it on both screens side by side. I then propped up one screen and it ended up being at an angle (sue me) and turned the brightness on both to 11 all while using my phone (s10) to take the photo in a dark room so straight away im off to a flier. I then opened photoshop and cropped the image to make it a bit harder to tell what machine is what, while simultaneously killing any image quality I had left with the jpg format. This is then, very scientific!:



But which is which? Also to clarify I have a colour calibrated 4k display and the laptops produce similar differences outputting to that via mini dp on one and thunderbolt 3 to DP on the other.

On this subject I assume people in here know the story of HP DreamColour and Shrek? Or why HP has an academy award for it's part in DreamWorks? Colours on screen vs printed vs rendered out has been an industry problem for years so much so that studios in different geographical locations couldn't seem to match "shrek" green properly from one studio to another to the point where there was a whole technology built around it.

The one on the left looks less saturated. So left Nvidia and right AMD..?

 

[Vince]

Yup lost to obscurity. But never mind.


It is a simple concept, different trees looked better to different people. Just as we all look at different women and find them differently appealing.

The point is when shown two images from a game who is to say which is actually better, when some people prefer a softer look and other prefer a sharper one.
Their is no right or wrong it is just different.

Now of course if you really want to press the issue as some have done, at least post up images that are a fair comparison. I'm sorry but images from two different systems with two different monitors are certainly not a fair comparison.

You are absolutely right as is clearly demonstrated by my laptops above. The difference between these two which have the same spec as far as I can tell from a panel perspective is pretty significant in terms of the yellows, it's enough that you can really see it when comparing two completely different bits of kit. Mind you at stock/stock on both machines in the driver you can also really see it even if I output to a monitor. But which is correct? No idea and really dont care that much, they are similar enough that I wouldn't lose sleep over it and I also tend to fiddle with the NV one to make it more "ATI" - I know the shame! Do I notice it? Sure I do, in the same way I notice if my wife kicks me in the nuts while i'm sleeping which has only happened a hand full of times in 14 years so...? imo it is very possibly "something" and I tend to notice when swapping between machines. Honestly though as has been said so many times it's down to preference and presentation.

Anyone seen the South Park with the science and the sea otters? GPU section reminds me of that a little bit Season 10 episode 12 apparently.

 

[Vince]

The one on the left looks less saturated. So left Nvidia and right AMD..?

Interesting I'll tell people which is which but I need more than one guess before I drop the bombshells.

 

[Rroff]

Yeah huge difference in the yellow saturation not gonna guess though as even a small difference in camera angle and ambient light can completely change the story.

 

[Vince]

Yeah huge difference in the yellow saturation not gonna guess though as even a small difference in camera angle and ambient light can completely change the story.

To be fair id say the image is a fairly good representation of what the differences look like to my eyes while they were sitting there in front of me perhaps ever so slightly exaggerated, also, I did take several from slightly different angles and all of them look like that image there. Again thought this is not scientific enough to be anything other than a bit of can you guess which image belongs to who.

Fwiw I also took some of a picture taken on our wedding day (edit for clarity, our is myself and my wife, just in case you sneaky ones out there get any ideas) and I found it a lot harder to distinguish the differences in that image although I did still have one I preferred but had to look quite a bit closer.

 

[TNA]

We need 4K8K to give us a detailed scientific analysis and tell us which is which

 

[kitfit1]

Yup lost to obscurity. But never mind.

Not lost to obsurity @bru just didn't read from early enough
As school used to say..................................needs to pay more attention in class

 

[Nasher]

The colours look stronger on the left monitor, but don't blend as nicely. But how is it supposed to look? It's hard to tell as it's abstract and there is no reference point.

2 different machines and monitors too so there are other variables.

 

[Vince]

The colours look stronger on the left monitor. But how is it supposed to look? It's hard to tell as it's abstract and there is no reference point.

2 different machines and monitors too so there are other variables.

I think that is kinda the point in this entire thread... second ill take a shot of how it is supposed to look.