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AMD what you doing to fight off Alderlake?

jigger said:
Going to be rough time for Intel over the next 5 years.
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Did you watch the 5 years of Ryzen video? There is something quite revealing in it, they admit post Athlon days they have been indecisive and timid in execution, sitting around the table saying this wont work, that wont work, lets not do this its too risky it might not work, lets just play it safe.

Ryzen was the result of a focused short and long term roadmap, all the play it safe naysayers, the shirkers (the anchors holding them down) left the company, what you're left with is a tight group with a singular mind to shoot for the moon and work damned hard to get there. They have found their Athlon days mojo.

Edit: sorry the Dr Ian Cutress Video with the Zen chief architect.
 
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humbug said:
The extra Cache will only make a difference in Floating Point workloads, which is not everything but its quite a lot of things.
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Not sure why you think it only makes a difference for FP. Cache is used in almost all CPU workloads or at least any that need to retrieve and store data.
 
humbug said:
Oh... Amiga 500+, early 1990's, that had 1MB of system RAM, which i upgraded to 2MB.
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LOL! Such a youngster, to not experience the days when you could massively expand your ZX81 from 1KB to a massive 16KB ram pack! We've come a long, long way in the last forty years of home computing.
 
Steampunk said:
LOL! Such a youngster, to not experience the days when you could massively expand your ZX81 from 1KB to a massive 16KB ram pack! We've come a long, long way in the last forty years of home computing.
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I was 5 or 6 when they came out, i have a vague memory of them tho the first thing i owned was some sort of mid 1980's Atari, Mother bought it for my Birthday or Christmas, can't remember, was a long time ago :o
 
humbug said:
Did you watch the 5 years of Ryzen video? There is something quite revealing in it, they admit post Athlon days they have been indecisive and timid in execution, sitting around the table saying this wont work, that wont work, lets not do this its too risky it might not work, lets just play it safe.

Ryzen was the result of a focused short and long term roadmap, all the play it safe naysayers, the shirkers (the anchors holding them down) left the company, what you're left with is a tight group with a singular mind to shoot for the moon and work damned hard to get there. They have found their Athlon days mojo.

Edit: sorry the Dr Ian Cutress Video with the Zen chief architect.
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Ryzen was also basically a last resort, the 2 plans on the table were for a ground up cpu (ryzen) or a heavy reworking of bulldozer to get more performance out of it. The bulldozer plan was the cheapest and at the time AMD were in the crap for money, so it took a big set of plums to go for the far more expensive option knowing it would take several years for it to see the light of day.
 
Gerard said:
Ryzen was also basically a last resort, the 2 plans on the table were for a ground up cpu (ryzen) or a heavy reworking of bulldozer to get more performance out of it. The bulldozer plan was the cheapest and at the time AMD were in the crap for money, so it took a big set of plums to go for the far more expensive option knowing it would take several years for it to see the light of day.
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A Bulldozer rework would have been like putting lipstick on a rotten pig, deep down i think they knew that. Perhaps at the time AMD's attitude was do or die, people had been predicting AMD's demise in the next year since 2012, in 2015 AMD hit rock bottom at about $1.80 a share, by 2016 they were on the brink of death.
 
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