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I find it amusing seeing the new things they come up with every so often. It basically sums up the PC hardware industry... a ton of unethical companies competing and prepared to go the extra mile for your hard-earned enthusiast wonga.oh yeah, this is just a new one
Agreed. If you buy new you would buy zen 3. If you are replacing zen or zen+ and on a budget then zen2 is clear winner. Otherwise zen 3 again
Because enabling MCE can also bump voltages, and remove's power limits on the cpu.
That'll be next week then
I think these chips will be a nice upgrade for people with 300 series boards that are missing out on zen 3 but like you say are still rocking zen1/zen+.
I'll bet you a virtual beer they'll do an Nvidia Super and put the XT prices above the X prices. That will nicely set the bar to raise the baseline prices for Zen 3's release.I can't wait for the annoucement on 16th June... hoping for juicy price drops on the 3600/3700x!
Maybe, but zen2 still is better value in terms of bang for buck. If you are on 300 board it would make more sense to get a 450board and Zen3 maybe? Some of the 450 boards are very good value.
To be fair, Devil's Canyon did try a few design changes that ultimately weren't successful so were dropped for the short-lived Broadwell. They were a more mature silicon too. Obviously silicon lottery plays a part, but I put 3 4770s and 2 4790s through a cheapo Asrock board for a client build and none of the Haswells would clock past 4.6GHz. Both the Devil's Canyon CPUs hit 4.8, and one of them even booted Windows at the mythic 5GHz.
The prices of XT when they are introduced indeed run higher, but the previous iterations will still go lower to shift them. I have zero intention to buy an XT anyway as it's just a marketing tactic to troll Intel and there is no real intention behind it of providing anything so worthwhile to consumers over the existing CPU's.
Look at overclocked benchmarks of 3600/3800/3900's? The XT's are essentially just those CPU's but with increased core/boost clock speeds... what else do you think they are providing?
Improved memory controllers and faster Infinity Fabric; 2GHz IF was mentioned in the same leaks. That's going to give more of a performance uplift the just bumping the clocks, but a bump in clocks combined with a reduction in inter-CCX and cross-chiplet latency should net some tangible gains actually worth badging these as a new line of CPUs.Look at overclocked benchmarks of 3600/3800/3900's? They will just have increased core/boost clock speeds... what else do you think they are providing?
Look at overclocked benchmarks of 3600/3800/3900's? The XT's are essentially just those CPU's but with increased core/boost clock speeds... what else do you think they are providing?
