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AMD Zen 2 (Refresh) 3900XT/3800XT/3600XT

Yeah, the likelihood is they are midtier refresh halo parts, if they're close to Intel's new parts why not, and some people will look at price and think oh well Intel is much more expensive so they must be better.

The trick though is they are likely better binned silicon, so that's what you're paying for. In the same way the 3950X sometimes runs cooler and draws less power than the 3900X due to that having worse binned silicon, I expect these will sit at higher clock speeds more regularly, whilst probably drawing less power and heat than the predecessors, because the silicon is more mature and binned better.

They are more refined I think is the key point, and AMD reckons they'll sell at these price points.

Now if they run cooler, faster and maintain higher clocks...for some people that price deficit will be worth it; they're cheaper than Intel after all.


For most of *US*, they're just a teaser for next generation 4000 desktop parts. For people who have to buy now, well they might not be 'worth it' in cost to frame so to speak, but the benefits in other areas and not just performance may be worth it for them for the relatively small price increase to get the premium part. If nothing else for that feel good factor.

Curious to see the reviews for these in a few days.
 
Alexrose1uk said:
Yeah, the likelihood is they are midtier refresh halo parts, if they're close to Intel's new parts why not, and some people will look at price and think oh well Intel is much more expensive so they must be better.

The trick though is they are likely better binned silicon, so that's what you're paying for. In the same way the 3950X sometimes runs cooler and draws less power than the 3900X due to that having worse binned silicon, I expect these will sit at higher clock speeds more regularly, whilst probably drawing less power and heat than the predecessors, because the silicon is more mature and binned better.

They are more refined I think is the key point, and AMD reckons they'll sell at these price points.

Now if they run cooler, faster and maintain higher clocks...for some people that price deficit will be worth it; they're cheaper than Intel after all.


For most of *US*, they're just a teaser for next generation 4000 desktop parts. For people who have to buy now, well they might not be 'worth it' in cost to frame so to speak, but the benefits in other areas and not just performance may be worth it for them for the relatively small price increase to get the premium part. If nothing else for that feel good factor.

Curious to see the reviews for these in a few days.
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Agreed, these aren't the CPU's we're looking for ;) It does bode well for Zen 3.
 
Will probably go for a 3300x. I was initially thinking about a 3700x, as I'm currently on a 6/12 cpu and thought I should go for more than I have now, then a 3600x (or xt), but for gaming they are all within 5% of the 3300x at the moment. Then in 2 years get whatever 8-core 4000 series is out.
 
Interesting, i wonder what the launch price of the 3900x was initially, and indeed the 3800x and 3600x.
Are these revision prices even higher than the original model price?

Does Italy usually overprice or similar to what we have cost wise?
 
3600x - £180/£230 (current/launch)
3700x - £280/£315
3900x - £400/£475

Destination said:
Interesting, i wonder what the launch price of the 3900x was initially, and indeed the 3800x and 3600x.
Are these revision prices even higher than the original model price?
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it’s way more than retail at launch of the non fresh chips
 
The 3600XT won't be ~£255, 3600X is ~£190, and the 3700X is ~£265-70. £229 is more likely, that would give 3600/3600X/3600XT at £150/£190/£230 covering a large chunk from the 10400 up to the 10600K with what is essentially the same CPU.
 
Meh, makes no sense to get one. For gaming the 3300x seems to provide the same performance as the 3600x, so even if it was 10% faster, value for money wise makes no sense. For productivity most people would go for 3700x and above I imagine, so the 3600x is sat in a weird place in my opinion.

3300x for £120, or 3600xt for £250? I know which one I'll go for.
 
M1k3H said:
Meh, makes no sense to get one. For gaming the 3300x seems to provide the same performance as the 3600x, so even if it was 10% faster, value for money wise makes no sense. For productivity most people would go for 3700x and above I imagine, so the 3600x is sat in a weird place in my opinion.

3300x for £120, or 3600xt for £250? I know which one I'll go for.
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I honestly don't think these will be £250, no more than £210. the 3700X is £270.
 
humbug said:
I honestly don't think these will be £250, no more than £210. the 3700X is £270.
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At £210 I might bite, as it gives me a couple more years before I 'need' to switch to a 4000 series, so can probably make the extra money back then as they'll be a bit cheaper (hopefully).
 
It sounds like the new XT chips aren't replacing current processors then. They're adding them as a higher tier. I don't blame them to be honest, their current range are already much better value than Intel. It will be great for marketing when reviews show the XT parts closing the gap on Intel in those niche gaming scenarios.
 
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