Will have to see, remember that PBO 200 mhz that Robert did and they don’t really overclock at all...
I would expect bit higher base and bit higher boost and they call it a day. Would be nice if they had binned IMC for 1900IF but doubtful.
I don’t think the refresh is on N7P they will be keeping that for Zen 3, they will just be good bins so 4.6-4.7
By introducing these now they take wind out of 10th gen launch and then they release halo 4000 series later this year with rest coming early 2021.
Yup I agree, got them all poo'ing themselves now, AMD dont need to compete with Intel, AMD are already wining, Intel has had zero IPC gains for years, all Intel have over AMD is core speed at a cost of extreme heat and stupid amounts of wattage, they are factory OC'ing there CPUs rather than you doing it yourself, Intel chips have been hitting 5ghz+ since the 8000 series, back then you were doing it yourself, now Intel are doing it for you, sorry Intel fanboy's, sad but true, and now there are 2 possible scenarios which is what ive been saying all along:
RyZen 3xxxXT are just a better binned Zen2 core (N7). and RyZen 4000 will come later this year as Zen 3 cores (N7P) which is also what you are saying.
(personally I cant see this myself, 2 CPU families within a few months of each other and only.....if we are lucky, a 7% performance increase between refined N7 and N7P, still no mention of N7+ anywhere except where AMD said they removed it because they didnt want people getting the wrong idea, which anyone who has read this whole thread will see plenty of people did)
Or RyZen 3xxxXT are Zen3 (N7P) and they just decided to change the name, tooooo........wait for it........ RyZen 3xxxXT instead of RyZen 4000 and are going to completely skip 7nm+, and still there is no mention of 7nm+ anywhere in AMD's newer slides, these so called 3xxxXT CPUs after all have just suddenly come out of the blue ? or have they, the newer 3100 and 3300 already have this change, hence the much higher overclocks - guessing.....or am I
AMD dont need to name those 2 with an XT extension as they've not previous existed.
Then next year, when they bring out Zen4 cores, they will call that RyZen 4000, which will be 5nm, a new socket, and
maybe the core and cache redesigns, no one ever said those core / cache redesigns were coming now, it was just all rumours and speculation, AMD said it would be coming, but didnt say when, and id imagine this would also require electrical changes, pins added or removed or repositioned, in essence a socket change, this will also align the naming / numbering scheme back in line with the core numbers to remove some confusion.
AMD have changed the names before, when everyone was expecting Zen2 core in 2000 series chips, they changed the core name to Zen+ and thats what threw the numbering out, because Zen2 cores then became RyZen 3000 CPUs.
Sounds like a perfect marketing strategy to me, i'd do exactly the same thing if I was Lisa Su.
The slides above speak a 1000 words.
