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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Yeah those rumours were quickly debunked though. I remember the 5GHz Ryzen comments and though damn that's optimistic on GloFlo. However the majority of leaks tended to lean towards 4-4.2GHz and they ended up at 4GHz.
 
What I'm not is blinkered...I've overclocked hundreds of AMD and Intel chips over the years...thus gaining experience in hardware release trends etc...

You've also bought a vastly overpriced chip that's about to be made next to absolute. You have purchase validation by the bucketload to worry about.
You talk about 2700X owners being sad about replacing to buffer you own incoming misfortune when your 9900k is vastly reduced in value. You talk about "my chip should go to 5.11ghz at least, thus beating any AMD offering, it only needs a bit more voltage!"

"I'm unbiased but I think all the rumours with multiple sources confirming are crap, if they aren't, well, all you Ryzen folks are going to be sad with me. If you aren't well my 9900k will still do fractionally more mhz thus totally validating my purchase so there! :p ". Totally unbiased and not feeling foolish about your 9900k purchase :D ;)

For the record...
Barton Cored 2500XP (1.83ghz) at 3.6ghz under a vapochill PE if we're going to start adding epeen measurements to our self interested waffle.
 
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You've also bought a vastly overpriced chip that's about to be made next to absolute. You have purchase validation by the bucketload to worry about.
You talk about 2700X owners being sad about replacing to buffer you own incoming misfortune when your 9900k is vastly reduced in value.
"I'm unbiased but I think all the rumours with multiple sources confirming are crap, if they aren't, well, all you Ryzen folks are going to be sad with me". Totally unbiased and not feeling foolish about your 9900k purchase :D

For the record...
Barton Cored 2500XP (1.83ghz) at 3.6ghz under a vapochill PE if we're going to start adding epeen measurements to our self interested waffle.

Dude the 9900k wont just plummit in price overnight...I sold my 6700k mobo and ram combo for £400

And If Rzen 3700x is that good I'll get one....
 
Dude the 9900k wont just plummit in price overnight...I sold my 6700k mobo and ram combo for £400

And If Rzen 3700x is that good I'll get one....

I'm... at least 30% teasing, don't worry ;)
A LOT of your "unbiased" posts were with a slant of defending your purchase though. Perhaps equally bait-y, I dunno.

Bias and purchase validation aren't the same thing.
Ones factionism at best, fanboyism at worst and totally NOT what I was angling at with the non-teasing parts.
The other's buffering your impending mild disappointment/perhaps annoyance at an impending release (and how it frames your recent purchase) by throwing it the worst shade you can muster, however valid :)
 
I'm... at least 30% teasing, don't worry ;)
A LOT of your "unbiased" posts were with a slant of defending your purchase though. Perhaps equally bait-y, I dunno.

Bias and purchase validation aren't the same thing.
Ones factionism at best, fanboyism at worst and totally NOT what I was angling at with the non-teasing parts.
The other's buffering your impending mild disappointment/perhaps annoyance at an impending release (and how it frames your recent purchase) by throwing it the worst shade you can muster, however valid :)

No I genuinely want Ryzen 3700x to beat intel and shake things up a bit more...But Because we won't see Ryzen 3700x anytime soon and I didn't want be lumbered with a 2700x

I will not be dissapointed if we see a 5ghz 3700x beating a 9900k at all on any level. I will be thrilled!
 
Dude the 9900k wont just plummit in price overnight...I sold my 6700k mobo and ram combo for £400

And If Rzen 3700x is that good I'll get one....

You are correct, and incorrect. The price won't plummet overnight, but if Zen2 is competitive on clock speed, and has superior IPC then you can bet Intel will drop the price, even if that is via channel rebates rather than an official MSRP drop. What you are not factoring in is the fact that the Z170 platform was an established platform, which a large installed user base and that is what keeps second hand prices high for CPU's especially the best ones for that socket type. The Z390/9900K has only been out a handful of months, and thus doesn't command a large market, and as mentioned if Zen2 shifts the attention away from Intel then it will not ship in the numbers required to ensure that a high second hand price exists.

Pretty sure you also said that "Intel are taking the ****" with these prices in the 9900K thread, and you'd be going Zen2. Yet now you do seem awfully defensive, and part of that is certainly down to purchase justification after spending on something that you criticised only weeks earlier. :)
 
Pretty sure you also said that "Intel are taking the ****" with these prices in the 9900K thread, and you'd be going Zen2. Yet now you do seem awfully defensive, and part of that is certainly down to purchase justification after spending on something that you criticised only weeks earlier. :)

I was referring to the release day price of £600+ not £499 for retail. So get your facts right.

My below comment is hardly defensive...Anyway I'm not short of a bob or two so if Ryzen 3700x is the second coming I can afford it.

No I genuinely want Ryzen 3700x to beat intel and shake things up a bit more...But Because we won't see Ryzen 3700x anytime soon and I didn't want be lumbered with a 2700x

I will not be dissapointed if we see a 5ghz 3700x beating a 9900k at all on any level. I will be thrilled!

I'm glad I went 9900 k it destroys 2700x at 5ghz on all cores and only cost 200 more :p

Its been worth for the fun in cooling and overclocking it.
 
is that when Hell and the world freezes over because AMD batters the snot out of Intel?

I'm not going to be magnanimous, i do want AMD to batter the snot out of Intel, its good for competition, Intel need a bloody nose, in fact no, Ryzen did that, now a few missing teeth would be good...... they need knocking down a few pegs, i think AMD are capable of it if they want to, i hope they don't play it safe for whatever reason and just slam the rumoured 3850 on the table and taunt Intel with it just because they can humiliate Intel in doing that.
 
I was referring to the release day price of £600+ not £499 for retail. So get your facts right.

My below comment is hardly defensive...Anyway I'm not short of a bob or two so if Ryzen 3700x is the second coming I can afford it.



I'm glad I went 9900 k it destroys 2700x at 5ghz on all cores and only cost 200 more :p

Its been worth for the fun in cooling and overclocking it.

Pricing has always been less that £500, just OCUK and other retailers gouging it, so you should have made yourself clear since how can one get their facts straight when the facts were "Intel are taking the ****" not retailers are taking the ****.

So what happened to buying Zen2 due to Intel being a rip off again? ;)
 
I'm not going to be magnanimous, i do want AMD to batter the snot out of Intel, its good for competition, Intel need a bloody nose, in fact no, Ryzen did that, now a few missing teeth would be good...... they need knocking down a few pegs, i think AMD are capable of it if they want to, i hope they don't play it safe for whatever reason and just slam the rumoured 3850 on the table and taunt Intel with it just because they can humiliate Intel in doing that.

Oh I fully agree. The lumbering giant has gotten so fat and arrogant it's time they take an utter battering. And I mean a full, humiliating battering. Every single CPU segment they are involved with could be bested by AMD here and it'll take Intel a few years to catch back up. That'll force them to get their rear in gear and innovate again.

AMD do have a massive hill to climb though, but in realistic terms the next few years are AMD's to lose, and if it's lost then it'll be AMD's own fault.
 
Pricing has always been less that £500, just OCUK and other retailers gouging it, so you should have made yourself clear since how can one get their facts straight when the facts were "Intel are taking the ****" not retailers are taking the ****.

So what happened to buying Zen2 due to Intel being a rip off again? ;)

I was perfectly clear....at 600 9900k was rip off @ 499 retail it was fine...when 8600k where costing £390

Zen 2 is not coming out for months...I needed a PC now...whats not to get?


being able to afford something and not being short a bob or 2 has nothing to do with suffering from purchase justification.

Fight amongst yourselves lol

You seem both seem to be offended I bought a 9900k..I'm not defending it...Its a hardware purchase not some odd religious ideology connected to companies.

I've always thought Brand loyalty particularly odd and this thread is clear proof of that :p

If 2700x was better or faster than the 9900k I would have bought it...But its Audio latency issues with the software I use would have been a compromise. Lets hope Zen 2 addresses this.
 
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