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LePhuronn said:
We'll also find out how bulletproof AdoredTV's sources are, because they've said categorically (or as categorically as a leak source can be) that consumer 7nm Vega was cancelled quite a while ago.

My F5 button officially has 8 hours of life left...
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Hopefully these leaks prove true, wouldn't mind a 3600 with 8 cores and 16 threads at £169/£179?
 
Mr G said:
Hopefully these leaks prove true, wouldn't mind a 3600 with 8 cores and 16 threads at £169/£179?
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I think his Ryzen leaks are going to be accurate, give or take 100Mhz here and there, because there is nothing outlandish or unrealistic about them. Likely bump the prices up $10-20 as we get closer to actual launch.
 
Certainly going to be an interesting day and no doubt these forums are going to be buzzing.

I can see all this getting leaked before the keynote, just need AMD to catch up in the GPU sector.
 
Mr G said:
just need AMD to catch up in the GPU sector.
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That's not coming any time soon, I fear. Even if Vega II is a gaming card, I doubt it'll close down too much on the 2080 and 2080 Ti. If the hint at Big Navi is true (and it's possible the leak saw Vega II running, not a Big Navi) then it'll be a short term proposition because Arcturus coming in 2020.

Realistically I think we need to see what Arcturus can do before we can start willing AMD back to the top of GPUs.
 
LePhuronn said:
That's not coming any time soon, I fear. Even if Vega II is a gaming card, I doubt it'll close down too much on the 2080 and 2080 Ti. If the hint at Big Navi is true (and it's possible the leak saw Vega II running, not a Big Navi) then it'll be a short term proposition because Arcturus coming in 2020.

Realistically I think we need to see what Arcturus can do before we can start willing AMD back to the top of GPUs.
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At least, the good news is that nvidia is done till 2020, no 7nm GPUs from them till 2020.
Nvidia GPUs built with Samsung's 7nm process could come in 2020 https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-gpus-built-with-samsungs-7nm-process-could-come-in-2020
 
I think the only real upgrade this year for me is going to be the CPU, my Vega 56 is doing everything I ask at 1440p and i doubt I'll be replacing this anytime soon... 2060 with 6GB anyone?
 
LePhuronn said:
We'll also find out how bulletproof AdoredTV's sources are, because they've said categorically (or as categorically as a leak source can be) that consumer 7nm Vega was cancelled quite a while ago./QUOTE]
From the other rumours we've heard since Adored's leak it seems like AMD have maybe been keeping their options open (or couldn't make up their minds) on the GPU side, with the Navi stuff pushed back again after they were considering pulling it forward, and Vega II acting as a stop-gap.

I'm still expecting the CPU stuff to be close to his info though.
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I missed the stuff about Navi being pushed back. When was it pushed back? I've never seen a date other than "2019", and it was always a reasonable assumption (but an assumption nonetheless) that we'd see a Computex announcement with a September launch.

If it is possible to salvage a Vega 20 die before it has HBM strapped to it, I guess there's no harm in doing a limited edition run of gaming cards to recoup some losses. But I just can't see a Vega 20 being any good for gaming, it's a Vega 10 with more datacenter compute stuff added and then shrunk to 7nm.

1.25X performance at the same power from the 7nm shrink still wouldn't reach the 2080/1080 Ti, would it?
 
Mr G said:
...but Intel must be crapping themselves!
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Coffee Lake suddenly goes to 6 cores, Coffee Lake Refresh goes to 8 cores and 6 new CL-R SKUs without iGPUs to increase yields and possibly help thermals. No, I don't think Intel are even remotely phased ;)
 
LePhuronn said:
I missed the stuff about Navi being pushed back. When was it pushed back? I've never seen a date other than "2019", and it was always a reasonable assumption (but an assumption nonetheless) that we'd see a Computex announcement with a September launch.

If it is possible to salvage a Vega 20 die before it has HBM strapped to it, I guess there's no harm in doing a limited edition run of gaming cards to recoup some losses. But I just can't see a Vega 20 being any good for gaming, it's a Vega 10 with more datacenter compute stuff added and then shrunk to 7nm.

1.25X performance at the same power from the 7nm shrink still wouldn't reach the 2080/1080 Ti, would it?
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Can't see it to be honest, wishful thinking 1080/2070 performance?
 
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