AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Drollic]

I was running a 2700x, so I updated the bios and chipset driver, plopped in the new chip.

X470, new Ryzen, early bios revisions and a previous install of Windows is asking for trouble

 

[humbug]

Is this normal???

Dunno, could be the software needs updating, its doing the same with mine

 

[Drollic]

@humbug

Prior comment, not screen.

 

[humbug]

Sorry wrong quote, edited ^^^^^

 

[BoomAM]

Is this normal???

No.
Could be a miss-binned chip or a dodgy BIOS. My money is on the former.

 

[humbug]

No.
Could be a miss-binned chip or a dodgy BIOS. My money is on the former.

Then so is mine....

Dunno, could be the software needs updating, its doing the same with mine

 

[BoomAM]

Then so is mine....

Do you both have the same board and/or BIOS?

 

[humbug]

Do you both have the same board and/or BIOS?

I doubt it, my board is a B350, i think he has an X570 of sorts.

 

[Zeed]

Thanks for that. What about hpet? Does that stay on or off, never knew tbh

On asus I cant turn it off in bios normally only on custom bios im running anyhow generally i got it off

As I said instal HW monitor run some stress test and have a look on volts and with this board VRM temperature. If VRM's are cooking You will loose performance and be unstable in general.

 

[Zeed]

Well a quick update from me.

Getting nowhere with the dram calculator. I type everything in meticulously and well the PC is having issues booting past certain frequencies, failing to get to windows etc ect ect...

My most success is from setting the timings for the 3600MHz 8 Pack ram 16 16 16 16 36 changing the frequency to 3733MHz and setting the dram volts to 1.4v. SOC auto. Putting it on manual 1.1v seemed to be contributing to my issues when I was trying to use the dram calculator timings.

I can game on these timings. Time well tell how stable it is. The dram calculator just seems way off to me.

cause with Teamgroup you need to use Debug/manual timings not the presets and instructions are with the calculator.
You know thing called Manual that you read before using something if you got not much knowlege on the matter

 

[Zeed]

X470, new Ryzen, early bios revisions and a previous install of Windows is asking for trouble

yup but it does work im on swapped cpu only and 1903 windows version thing is my windows is gutte on REGEDIT level

 

[Drollic]

yup but it does work im on swapped cpu only and 1903 windows version thing is my windows is gutte on REGEDIT level

Your call, I just wouldn't trust it myself. At least not 100%

 

[Lolik]

I was running a 2700x, so I updated the bios and chipset driver, plopped in the new chip.

Done exactly same (only had 2600x b4) , works no probs; but fresh windows install is the must when troubleshooting.

 

[Buffalo2102]

Then so is mine....

Mine too. 3800X on a GB Aorus Elite.

 

[Illuminist]

I had to system restor to yesterday and that fixed it, not sure what caused it though.....

Going to leave it alone until I've learnt what I'm doing and /or get a better motherboard

 

[opethdisciple]

cause with Teamgroup you need to use Debug/manual timings not the presets and instructions are with the calculator.
You know thing called Manual that you read before using something if you got not much knowlege on the matter

I'll have another go tomorrow then. The instructions are in the zip archive you download?

Sorry if this is obvious but where are you getting the information not to use the presets? I'm at work currently so haven't had time to look through the guide in detail, but I thought the process was import from Typon burner then select one of the presets? If I'm not using presets then where am I getting my values from the calculator from?

 

[Woodsta888]

I'll have another go tomorrow then. The instructions are in the zip archive you download?

I think you open the calculator, select help from menus, then the RAM OC Guide (TPU) is the link to the guide at the Techpowerup website

 

[Gee]

Karhu RAM test is a good tool. Recommend by The Stilt amongst others. It'll cost you 9 euros though but it's much much quicker than HCI.

https://www.karhusoftware.com/ramtest/

 

[Zeed]

Your call, I just wouldn't trust it myself. At least not 100%

I had system swap from X99 to Ryzen and was working fine for 6 months till new windows version came out and i'w done full format.
If someone got **** untidy windows install and swaps hardware over thats that. I tend to run windows system file check once a week.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb...er-tool-to-repair-missing-or-corrupted-system

How often do You run system file check ??

i run BCLK overclock high temperatures heavy load benchmarks for hours. It can and will **** file system on NVME connected to cpu sooner or later. You cant test memory if youn are not sure system is 100% stable itself.

 

[Zeed]

Karhu RAM test is a good tool. Recommend by The Stilt amongst others. It'll cost you 9 euros though but it's much much quicker than HCI.

https://www.karhusoftware.com/ramtest/

For testing ram itself yes. BUT hci can detect IF and IMC instability aka instant reboot no emmory error no nothing pc just reboots. Tahts when You need to add 1-2 ticks of SoC from my XP it will happen in 150-300% range if it suppose to happen at all. Over longer time IMC warms up and resistances of pcb edt change and that ***** up stability and you get reboot not even bsod. And thats what we noticed with Zen+ and Zen2 also on OCN.
But I do use ramtest dunno since it came out purely for testing memory stability.

Generally recommend this tool
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-4-windows-10
got some great options
CREATE RESTORE POINT just in case You **** it up and format C time