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Does anyone notice that it takes a long time with X570 to boot, i mean it takes like 10+seconds to just get to the bios logo screen, with my previous z270 board i would be in windows at that time. I tried fast boot and disabling many settings in bios but it seems its just an x570 thing, not a big deal but just wondering.
 
Insight much appreciated. TBH I might just pass on the 3### then and see what the 4### are like instead next year.

If I could just pop in a 3900X and tweak away I think I could justify the upgrade from a 2700X, but if I need a new mobo too, I find it a harder pill to swallow.

It’s not like my 2700X is a slouch anyway. Mostly just gaming at 4K with a 2080Ti.
Yeah I didn't plan to get a 3900x or a new board, only doing it so I have something to focus on as I have a lot of bad things going on right now. Its my only escape from it.
I would have been completely happy with the 2700x and ultra gaming x470, it's extremely decent and my 2700x was a very good binned one at that..... Tech is an addiction,
 
I'm missing the point of the dram calculator actually.

It seems to be a tool to get your ram working at DOCP settings. You import the timings and it tells you all the sub timings etc....

But what about running it faster than DOCP? I thought THAT was what it was for.
 
Does anyone notice that it takes a long time with X570 to boot, i mean it takes like 10+seconds to just get to the bios logo screen, with my previous z270 board i would be in windows at that time. I tried fast boot and disabling many settings in bios but it seems its just an x570 thing, not a big deal but just wondering.

I'm sure it's just a BIOS thing and will be fixed in future updates I imagine.
 
Does anyone notice that it takes a long time with X570 to boot, i mean it takes like 10+seconds to just get to the bios logo screen, with my previous z270 board i would be in windows at that time. I tried fast boot and disabling many settings in bios but it seems its just an x570 thing, not a big deal but just wondering.
What board?
 
What cooler have you got attached?

If it's an aftermarket monolithic brick, this can sometimes warp the area around the socket - and can cause similar issues to this. (rare cases stock coolers - but would be surprised on an x570).

You could test the theory by pressing the heatsink to the CPU to see if it has any life i.e. without heatsink fixed to motherboard - won't be an issue for a lightning test.


**are you mainlined into the wall? If not i would try. If not possible try a different extension cable. Same for kettle lead if new PSU. (all reaching - but good to rule out).




Missed this post as had my reply open for a while before submitting - but would still consider the above.
It is literally just tripping out whenever a CPU pin is in socket.
Motherboard has 8+4 for CPU power, and my PSU uses 4+4 though I can connect a single 4+0.
If it was simply not posting with CPU in socket then I'd be thinking bios issue, but all I'm left with is either CPU or CPU socket.
I've used IPA (99.9%) to clean CPU pins etc.

Aftermarket cooler BTW; Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo.
I've tried with and without cooler attached. Same issue.
CPU fan kicks in as it is attached to the CPU header.
 
I got a question which I'm still confused about.

When you use the DRAM calculator where you select frequency do you put the target frequency you want to achieve or the frequency your ram is rated at?

In this video he doesn't import his timings as I've been told to do.

 
I got a question which I'm still confused about.

When you use the DRAM calculator where you select frequency do you put the target frequency you want to achieve or the frequency your ram is rated at?

In this video he doesn't import his timings as I've been told to do.

I'm missing the point of the dram calculator actually.

It seems to be a tool to get your ram working at DOCP settings. You import the timings and it tells you all the sub timings etc....

But what about running it faster than DOCP? I thought THAT was what it was for.
Me too, want to know this the instructions aren't clear
 
You will see here on page 34 AMD's own documentation for Ryzen Master recommend putting in your primary timings for ram putting SOC and VDDG to 1.1v and leaving everything else auto.
 
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Just started using RAM Calculator and got my RAM latency down to 63.5ns. Even Buildzoid said he wanted to see someone break into the 63ns range. Im testing stability now.
 
I still can't get mine to power up with the CPU in the socket.
Read your previous response - from limited description (i.e. parts?) and the troubleshooting you've already 'meticulously' carried out i think you've isolated the problem. And as you know it appears to be a toss up between the CPU or motherboard. :/

Don't suppose you got them from the same e-tailor?

*That said - have you used all new parts or have you used a mix of existing parts and new - how old is the PSU, have you tried a skeleton setup outside of the case and shorted/started it?
 
Fake outrage ? Nothing burger? You sound like a certain Orange person that gets upset when news is posted he doesnt like.

Its good info, especially for enthusiasts and owners wondering whats happening with Boost clocks not matching advertised speeds.

If you choose to ignore it or deem it irrelevant to your workload / usage , then fine, but its different behaviour to any previous generation of AMD or Intel.

Cos we can't just believe everything said in the web (esp. at tom's :)). Prolly the updates on chipset drivers, agesa and bioses are affecting the boost of these cpus.

https://i.imgur.com/F8q48q5.jpg
 
Read your previous response - from limited description (i.e. parts?) and the troubleshooting you've already 'meticulously' carried out i think you've isolated the problem. And as you know it appears to be a toss up between the CPU or motherboard. :/

Don't suppose you got them from the same e-tailor?

*That said - have you used all new parts or have you used a mix of existing parts and new - how old is the PSU, have you tried a skeleton setup outside of the case and shorted/started it?
Completely new build. All tested inside and outside of case.
CPU from OCUK, mobo from A N Other.

Parts are: R5 3600, MSI X570 Gaming Edge WiFi, 2X8GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz CL16, 5700XT, Seasonic Focus Gold+ 750w, Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo, and Fractal Design Focus G Mid-Tower ATX.
 
Completely new build. All tested inside and outside of case.
CPU from OCUK, mobo from A N Other.

Parts are: R5 3600, MSI X570 Gaming Edge WiFi, 2X8GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz CL16, 5700XT, Seasonic Focus Gold+ 750w, Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo, and Fractal Design Focus G Mid-Tower ATX.

Works outside of the case? Something is shorting it then. Sorry I have not read your diagnostics and troubelshooting so far.
 
Completely new build. All tested inside and outside of case.
CPU from OCUK, mobo from A N Other.

Parts are: R5 3600, MSI X570 Gaming Edge WiFi, 2X8GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz CL16, 5700XT, Seasonic Focus Gold+ 750w, Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo, and Fractal Design Focus G Mid-Tower ATX.
From reading your other posts in this thread (i.e. knowledgeable) - i figured you would have covered all of the bases.

Quality components and nice choice of memory (assuming LT AES) - and as a result nothing 'ify' jumps out other than extremely bad luck :/

@tamzzy - has a suspected DOA CPU (will be definitively proven soon) but his is a 3700X.

No-one nearby with a spare CPU to test?
 
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