Totally agree, its a real shame as it does seem like false advertising and yet I am very very happy with the performance of everything I throw at my 3700X, I boost to 4370 single core and about 4200mhz multi under cinebench. They should have just not rushed the release and given correct data as otherwise it leaves a bad taste.
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I have to agree with this.
Soldato
I agree
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I was saying it was the AGESA as that's what AsRock told me when they were testing their 3700x on the 1.0.0.3ABB bios. I'd been testing beta BIOS versions for them, and they were reproducing my results.
To quote AsRock TS;
AsRock Tech Support said:
They then got back to me saying;
AsRock Tech suppot said:
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So You will be ok with Fix that could possibly kill cpu in 2-3 years ?? The typical 3-4 months dead after warranty expires ??Yep hopefully it'll be something they can fix with bios updates but yeah if they have to keep lowering boost clocks... well whats the opposite of AMD's Finewine.
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I know I see it all the time. Cause AMD are 'the good guys' There is no good guys there are ones that **** you in the but only question is... Do they use lube or go RAW
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But thats bassically every product last few years. Always something is not 100% right or takes months to fix.
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Anyhow Tested that 002 bios that is fixed version of 2703 that is fixed version of 2701 on C7H can see no problems.
I know I see it all the time. Cause AMD are 'the good guys' There is no good guys there are ones that **** you in the but only question is... Do they use lube or go RAW
Raw everytime!
Not saying we will see it but I'd expect more of a fuss to made after the WE (+BH in the UK) as this only started to become known on, what was it, Friday? There is a fuss being made but until the media get some answers from AMD everyones a little in the dark and/or basing things on hearsay, rumors, or suppositions. Personally I'll be 'disappointed' if this isn't covered by the tech press next week and we don't get a satisfactory answer from AMD.
But people are buying a product that has changed post release. So the boxes have incorrect information on it. My CPU won't boost anywhere near the clocks on the box. So the product I paid for isn't the product I received.
It's really that simple. AMD has some things they need to do to fix this situation.
Has it? IIRC 1.0.0.3 introduced the change and all X570 boards released with that version and all reviewers were told to test with that version (all be it a few days before release and after a lot of them had tested with 1.0.0.2), and AMD have said it's MAX boost so technically they're not saying you will get that speed, just that that's the highest possible (within specs) clock speed
That's not to say i agree with what they've done, i said on another forum a while ago that AMD needed to either sort out the boost behavior or change the misleading advertising, the latter probably being difficult now they had launched, what they've done IMO is the equivalent of giving an "up to" speed.
That's not to say i agree with what they've done, i said on another forum a while ago that AMD needed to either sort out the boost behavior or change the misleading advertising, the latter probably being difficult now they had launched, what they've done IMO is the equivalent of giving an "up to" speed.
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Anyone else noticed that in a ST CB R20 run the active core jumps every 12-13s?
It then immediately returns to the core it was on.
It then immediately returns to the core it was on.
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Need some advice - Asus x470, 3700X, Teamgroup 3600mhz 8Pack DDR4. Using the Ryzen Calc, I've got values but confused over where to put them on a Asus CH7 (Non-WIFI) MB. Do they go into Extreme Tweaker or into the AMD Overclocking section or both? Tried each one individually and getting either QLED 1F or 92 error codes error codes.
Coming from ASRock, this board is very confusing on where to put things
Coming from ASRock, this board is very confusing on where to put things
They haven't given an "up to" speed if you're never seeing the advertised clocks on full custom watercooling, on an X570 Taichi, with more than enough power available. If they've changed the way boosting works with AGESA 1003, then they have changed the way the chips behave post release and printing of the boxes. That in itself is enough of an issue.
Now we know why AMD lies about boost clocks after insights from ASUS development team
The chips can boost higher, but were software lowered to avoid damaging the chips. Then recently they were lowered again.
AMD jumped the gun when their marketing put 4.7ghz boost clock on the packaging. The chips were not properly tested, the whole Ryzen 3000 launch has been a mess and AMD clearly Jumped the gun and noW everyone is just a beta tester
The chips can boost higher, but were software lowered to avoid damaging the chips. Then recently they were lowered again.
AMD jumped the gun when their marketing put 4.7ghz boost clock on the packaging. The chips were not properly tested, the whole Ryzen 3000 launch has been a mess and AMD clearly Jumped the gun and noW everyone is just a beta tester
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I'm on 1.0.0.3a and my 3800x (technically) hits 4.5ghz. It'rare and it's brief. But it actually does happen.
Heck, I saw 4.525 in the "max" column of HWinfo after gaming for a couple hours today.
I just installed a 5,000btu window A/C unit and got a 5132 on CB20. I was setting the central AC to 74F but the way my sim rig is setup, I have a fan basically blowing the central AC out the door as soon as it enters the room. The window unit is effectively the intake side of that same fan and the room has to be closer to 70F now.
Even better, my wife isn't walking around the house dressed like an eskimo in the summer. (She prefers 78F)
Heck, I saw 4.525 in the "max" column of HWinfo after gaming for a couple hours today.
I just installed a 5,000btu window A/C unit and got a 5132 on CB20. I was setting the central AC to 74F but the way my sim rig is setup, I have a fan basically blowing the central AC out the door as soon as it enters the room. The window unit is effectively the intake side of that same fan and the room has to be closer to 70F now.
Even better, my wife isn't walking around the house dressed like an eskimo in the summer. (She prefers 78F)
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And stress test? One of the recent changes was introducing a lower temp at which it throttles of 75c
This "max boost" or "up to" thing is PURE BS if on the box max boost is 4.6 it means it should reach it at least under low workload.. if we cant get it even with 3rd party coolers, its obviously misleading marketing from AMD, and saying that this is "up to" and not guaranteed is funny.. in that case they could add max boost 5ghz or so(as you can achieve this on LN2?) there would be no difference. If you cant achieve max boost on decent build with decent cooling its obvious that something is not right there.. also you can clearly see how much testing they did before releasing product...
For me its not a huge deal if its 4,5ghz max boost or 4.6mhz, but fact is fact
if on the box max boost is 4.6 it means it should reach it at least under low workload.. if we cant get it even with 3rd party coolers, its obviously misleading marketing from AMD, and saying that this is "up to" and not guaranteed is funny.. in that case they could add max boost 5ghz or so(as you can achieve this on LN2?) there would be no difference. If you cant achieve max boost on decent build with decent cooling its obvious that something is not right there.. also you can clearly see how much testing they did before releasing product... For me its not a huge deal if its 4,5ghz max boost or 4.6mhz, but fact is fact
