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Which CPU?
Ryzen 3600
Aorus X570 AORUS ELITE
Corsair 16gb 3200MHz CL16 RAM
Not updated my sig yet. Too busy with the new setup
The issue is 100% the ram, even tried to set it manually, but the Moro was not having it,
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Ryzen 3600
Aorus X570 AORUS ELITE
Corsair 16gb 3200MHz CL16 RAM
Not updated my sig yet. Too busy with the new setup
The issue is 100% the ram, even tried to set it manually, but the Moro was not having it,
OK could you post here your DRAM Calculator screenshot and a screenshot from this application?
http://www.softnology.biz/files.html
So I can help you work out ram setting
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@Perfect_Chaos and to anyone else who might call me mad when wrote that AMD can put 24core AM4 when the I/O is shrank on Zen 3
From here
https://www.igorslab.media/en/does-...t-air-coolers-due-to-its-asymmetrical-design/
Thats how all the Ryzen 3000 are (except 3900X & 3950 where the second slot has another chiplet)
By shrinking the new and more advanced I/O to 7nm it opens a 4th space there.
Now if is possible to wire this thing is a different matter, but physically can take it.
From here
https://www.igorslab.media/en/does-...t-air-coolers-due-to-its-asymmetrical-design/
Thats how all the Ryzen 3000 are (except 3900X & 3950 where the second slot has another chiplet)
By shrinking the new and more advanced I/O to 7nm it opens a 4th space there.
Now if is possible to wire this thing is a different matter, but physically can take it.
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Thanks man.OK could you post here your DRAM Calculator screenshot and a screenshot from this application?
http://www.softnology.biz/files.html
So I can help you work out ram setting
Two issues I am having right now. One the app you linked me to download does not launch (I run as admin) and second I have steam in the background downloading a game and the CPU fan goes mad revving up and down. Crazy how temps go from around 30C to 60C just from steam downloading a game... My 4770K did not even break a sweat.
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How you applied the thermal paste? I have a 3900X and is snoring as we speak (on D15), while downloading a game from epic, playing 2 twitch steams (for drops) and watching netflix.
I just put a rice grain (slight bigger than a rice maybe) in the middle. But I did use the little tube I had which came with my dark rock pro 4 to test it out. Could be that it is not making full contact. Might need to redo it with my MX4.
You are probably better off doing the spread method. I didn't bother with the supplied paste on the dark rock pro 4. I'm using Noctua NT-H2 paste thinly spread. Idle doesn't go above high 20's low 30's. I don't think I've seen temps go much over 65 on any testing either.
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Not sure about the original bios (F3) I think. I didn't use. Literally stuck everything together, booted into bios, updated it to F5b, then rebooted and started installing windows.
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I'm not sure if it's the thermal paste tbh. I sort of have the same issue. Like the CPU will spike almost?
Normally when I'm doing something but not something I'd expect it to cause it too much of a hassle? Installing Photoshop did it for me. Pushed the temp into the low 50's for a few seconds then it dropped.
Noctua thermal paste applied using their recommended method. Dot in the middle then four smaller ones around the edge.
Ben Nevis CPU cooler on top. By the time I managed to get the bloody thing clamped down the paste will have spread itself no doubt. I did check to make sure nothing 'overspilled'
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Have a look on the picture above where the chip is.
Not at the center any more, so you have to spread it to be safe. And depending the cooler you need to turn it around so heat pipes are over the core (the smaller part) not over the empty space or the I/O.
Idle is fine, I also get 20-30C. But small things like steam downloading a game causes it to spike and temps quickly reach 60-65C in spikes. I see all cores at just shy of 4,2GHz. Obviously as small load all cores are able to boost. Not done any overclocking by the way. Everything is on default on mobo settings.
Is there not something I need to enable like C states or adaptive voltage in the mobo settings? I really doubt what I have is due to cooler install issues. As everything runs fine when no activity and when using all cores 100% temps never go above 65C either. That’s what I do get, the spikes... Oh and annoying about the ram not just working on xmp.
No doubt I will solve all this eventually, but it certainly is not as easy and straight forward like setting up and overclocking my intel. This does not even want to work properly on stock. Lol.
I have adjusted the CPU fan curve not to speed up until no less than 60C now just to stop it from revving.
@Panos do you use the freeware version of that app you sent me? Maybe I should try the other version and it might work. Will try later on when I get back on it. Edit just saw the picture, somehow missed that post last night. If I can’t get any solutions via bios, will repaste with mx4.
Guys is there a guide how to tweak things in the bios or do you guys have it all on auto?
By the way. My voltage exceeds 1.4v everything on stock. Seems a bit much, maybe doing a bit of a undervault would help?
Is there not something I need to enable like C states or adaptive voltage in the mobo settings? I really doubt what I have is due to cooler install issues. As everything runs fine when no activity and when using all cores 100% temps never go above 65C either. That’s what I do get, the spikes... Oh and annoying about the ram not just working on xmp.
No doubt I will solve all this eventually, but it certainly is not as easy and straight forward like setting up and overclocking my intel. This does not even want to work properly on stock. Lol.
I have adjusted the CPU fan curve not to speed up until no less than 60C now just to stop it from revving.
@Panos do you use the freeware version of that app you sent me? Maybe I should try the other version and it might work. Will try later on when I get back on it. Edit just saw the picture, somehow missed that post last night. If I can’t get any solutions via bios, will repaste with mx4.
Guys is there a guide how to tweak things in the bios or do you guys have it all on auto?
By the way. My voltage exceeds 1.4v everything on stock. Seems a bit much, maybe doing a bit of a undervault would help?
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Spread method for me always with credit card.
We have to remember with 7nm lithography, things are much smaller, more concentrated and will heat up more quickly (hence the spikes) and current heatsinks wont be able to draw away the heat as quickly from a smaller area. The temp measurements come from within the CPU?
Then there are the heatsinks, these need to be made thinner so that the transfer of heat to the water pumped inside it, can be removed more efficiently. THe lag in the temp spike and the AIO ramping up is too slow for 7nm. Panos's picture above shows that the temps are concentrated in 2 small areas on the CPU. I use AIO's and I have been wondering how the water inside the water-block is channeled, and whilst these may have been optimal on older lithographies and CPU layout designs, with the layout of Zen2 have wondered where the running of the coldest intake of water to the CPU is on these AIO's and whether better orientation could be achieved by turning through 90-180 degrees. But the high spikes could be somewhat to the physical attributes of 7nm, smaller so heats up more quickly and current cooling solutions have too much lag?
We have to remember with 7nm lithography, things are much smaller, more concentrated and will heat up more quickly (hence the spikes) and current heatsinks wont be able to draw away the heat as quickly from a smaller area. The temp measurements come from within the CPU?
Then there are the heatsinks, these need to be made thinner so that the transfer of heat to the water pumped inside it, can be removed more efficiently. THe lag in the temp spike and the AIO ramping up is too slow for 7nm. Panos's picture above shows that the temps are concentrated in 2 small areas on the CPU. I use AIO's and I have been wondering how the water inside the water-block is channeled, and whilst these may have been optimal on older lithographies and CPU layout designs, with the layout of Zen2 have wondered where the running of the coldest intake of water to the CPU is on these AIO's and whether better orientation could be achieved by turning through 90-180 degrees. But the high spikes could be somewhat to the physical attributes of 7nm, smaller so heats up more quickly and current cooling solutions have too much lag?
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Seen the sticky thread in Reddit where it says it's normal.
Quite a good read really - https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/db60m3/the_zen_2_faq/
Quite a good read really - https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/db60m3/the_zen_2_faq/
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Just a thought re the XMP. Are you using slot A2 and B2. So the second one in from the CPU and the last one?
Cheers will take a look.
Had a quick go of Ryzen Master. Reduced max vault to 1.25 and set all cores to 4200MHz and run Cinebench. Not only did my score go up by over 200 points, the CPU never went above 61C which meant the fans barely even spun up due to the profile I had to crate last night! Nice!! But question how stable is it? Lots of tweaking to do
I am in A1 and B1. Does that make a difference? Not read the manual yet
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Cheers will take a look.
Had a quick go of Ryzen Master. Reduced max vault to 1.25 and set all cores to 4200MHz and run Cinebench. Not only did my score go up by over 200 points, the CPU never went above 61C which meant the fans barely even spun up due to the profile I had to crate last night! Nice!! But question how stable is it? Lots of tweaking to do
I am in A1 and B1. Does that make a difference? Not read the manual yet
Pretty sure it's advised to use A2 and B2 depending on the RAM. Let me see if I can dig out the source
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Yep found the post by 'Gigabyte Matthew'
Q: XMP doesn't work!
A: Make sure you are:
- Using slot A2/B2 - From CPU skip a slot, RAM, skip a slot, RAM. I cannot emphasize this enough. If you are helping someone T/S a problem this should be your first question.
- You are using the latest BIOS.
- For debugging RAM please keep everything else default.
- If the above don't help post your RAM kit and any steps you have tried to fix the problem.
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So after ages of stability my ram has started throwing up errors, Firefox crashes, games crashing. The lot.
I think I fixed it by lowering the ram speed to 3400 from 3600 but it makes me sad to do so.
Any reason this has happened? I haven't touched it for ages only updated the bios and chipset recently
I think I fixed it by lowering the ram speed to 3400 from 3600 but it makes me sad to do so.
Any reason this has happened? I haven't touched it for ages only updated the bios and chipset recently