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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Panos said:
After a quick run the usual crap (like Cinebench), surprisingly World of Tanks. Anything that's missed by 3D Mark etc is always been picked up by it crashing.
I do not touch Prime as is completely crap and archaic method.
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Thanks mate, you have been very helpful :D

Will report back my findings. Right now I am going to run a few more tests to see how stable my 4GHz profile is before I move on to the RAM, as right now my system has been rock solid when running ram with XMP.
 
TNA said:
Thanks mate, you have been very helpful :D

Will report back my findings. Right now I am going to run a few more tests to see how stable my 4GHz profile is before I move on to the RAM, as right now my system has been rock solid when running ram with XMP.
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I do not see why bother. Leaving the CPU alone and just tweaking the RAM has the greatest benefits.
 
Panos said:
No reason to tweak the CPU. Leave everything default and just tune the ram.
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I guess I am new to this so will realise something I am missing soon. But is not a lower voltage or higher MHz a reason?

I am sure I can at least get this 3600 to run like a 3600X :D
 
TNA said:
I guess I am new to this so will realise something I am missing soon. But is not a lower voltage or higher MHz a reason?

I am sure I can at least get this 3600 to run like a 3600X :D
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Nope. Use ABBA Bios and tweak the ram. 50-100mhz here and there mean nothing.

RAM proper tuning is what improves FPS 36% and 40% in some games.
Other 5-10%.
 
Panos said:
Nope. Use ABBA Bios and tweak the ram. 50-100mhz here and there mean nothing.
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I am on the ABBA Bios. Will see how it goes. Maybe you are right, but for sure I am seeing performance difference in Cinebench and difference in temps between each profile. Apart from stability if I ever have the issue, I do not see why the cpu should be using 1.42v to maintain 3600 default clocks when it can run much cooler doing the same thing.
 
TNA said:
I am on the ABBA Bios. Will see how it goes. Maybe you are right, but for sure I am seeing performance difference in Cinebench and difference in temps between each profile. Apart from stability if I ever have the issue, I do not see why the cpu should be using 1.42v to maintain 3600 default clocks when it can run much cooler doing the same thing.
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Leave the CPU alone, forcing specific voltage, even low and speed completely goes against it's internal programming of what's safe and when. This is not Intel nor Zen/+ CPU.
And Cinebench isn't representatives of gaming performance either. Which multiple threads appear and disappear with various loads.
 
Panos said:
Leave the CPU alone, forcing specific voltage, even low and speed completely goes against it's internal programming of what's safe and when. This is not Intel nor Zen/+ CPU.
And Cinebench isn't representatives of gaming performance either. Which multiple threads appear and disappear with various loads.
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If it's internal programming is anything like my Vega then I am sure it could do with a little help. Lol :p

Will likely end up doing that in the end. But not until I have a little play about :D
 
michty_me said:
Have you tried it with the CPU on defaults also?
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Indeed. That is all I tried it on actually, as when the computer reboots the Rysen Master profile does not stay on, at least my one does not.

Crazy how I using HWMonitor the highest on default I noticed earlier is 1.48v. That is crazy! Really not happy with that, but that is how Zen2 works apparently. When I use Ryzen Master it locks the clocks in and essentially you lose the ability for clock and vaults to go down from what I have observed so far however.

With my 4770K I used adaptive mode where it could still use different multiplies and run on low speeds even overclocked. Don't think zen 2 has that option from what I can see.
 
Well it's been a good few weeks since I fiddled with the VDDG voltage and my freezing up has vanished.

I started at 1.1v (red in BIOS) after a bit I lowered it to the highest yellow value (1.075v) and it was fine.

I then decided to lower it even further and at 1.0v it's still stable.
 
Anyone getting an AMD update through the Win Updates ?


Advanced Micro Devices, Inc - System - 2.2.0.121

I don't know what it is for, but it has to be downloaded (as ive got the Yellow Triangle back, with the exclamation mark, so i can't do any more updates, until i install it), Status :- Pending Download, Download Ready, and the Download button to hit.

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Gets mentioned in a post on here, GPIO Driver.

yesterday I also got a AMD GPIO driver update which updates one of the GPIO devices to version 2.2.0.121, while that chipset driver contains version 2.2.0.116
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/dglnck/tested_does_win10_november_update_1909/
 
Hmm strange. I use WSUS and don't check for drivers because obviously 99% of them would sit on my disk unused. I'm sure it'll be included in the next chipset driver bundle regardless.
 
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Mine must check for everything :p, and does it automatically when i switch on (or not long after), just gone into to see if its done its check, and found this sitting there :p

Will have to do it later, as i'll not be long in going out.
 
In the comments they say it's not for Ryzen CPUs but aimed at Intel's Cascade Lake X.

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What I meant was the 1909 'favoured cores' work MS have done is for Intel's new architecture.
 
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