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Nelly said:
Posted in the Memory section of the forums as well >> Link
Source: TechPowerUp
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There's been a couple of software updates over the last few days for DRAM Calculator.

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/ryzen-dram-calculator/

DRAM Calculator for Ryzen v1.7.1 (May 9th, 2020)

Release notes:
  • Reworking of all presets for Samsung b-die, Micron e-die and Hynix CJR (DJR). Improved support for configurations with 4 or 8 RAM modules.
  • R-XMP and Calculate EXTREME buttons removed.
  • Added new Help and my reviews section, which provides links to my materials in addition to reference information.
  • DRAM PCB Revision - select PCB RAM for more accurate calculation of timings. In most cases it is recommended to use "A0" for better compatibility.
  • The "Compare timings (ON/OFF)" button has received updated functionality. It can read not only the timings, but also show the state of the timings in color. Your personal assistant for creating individual presets.
  • Added "New version?" button, which allows you to visit the product homepage and read the materials regarding DRAM
  • Calculator for Ryzen, check for updates or ask any question.
  • Error fixes and some graphical adjustments.
  • Timings read support for all Ryzen family processors (including future Zen 3 processors).

DRAM Calculator for Ryzen v1.7.2 (May 11th, 2020)

Release notes:
  • Support OC assist for Micron E-die (A2) and CJR/DJR (A0 and A2)
  • Some correction for OC assist (Samsung B-die)
  • Additional presets for Hynix CJR / DJR (now A0 and A2)
  • Error fix: "Parse data"
  • Minor fix: voltage for Samsung B-die
  • Minor fix: some timings for Micron E-die
  • Minor fix: tWRRD for 4 DIMM configuration
  • Other bug fixes
 
Nelly said:
There's been a couple of software updates over the last few days for DRAM Calculator.

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/ryzen-dram-calculator/

DRAM Calculator for Ryzen v1.7.1 (May 9th, 2020)

Release notes:
  • Reworking of all presets for Samsung b-die, Micron e-die and Hynix CJR (DJR). Improved support for configurations with 4 or 8 RAM modules.
  • R-XMP and Calculate EXTREME buttons removed.
  • Added new Help and my reviews section, which provides links to my materials in addition to reference information.
  • DRAM PCB Revision - select PCB RAM for more accurate calculation of timings. In most cases it is recommended to use "A0" for better compatibility.
  • The "Compare timings (ON/OFF)" button has received updated functionality. It can read not only the timings, but also show the state of the timings in color. Your personal assistant for creating individual presets.
  • Added "New version?" button, which allows you to visit the product homepage and read the materials regarding DRAM
  • Calculator for Ryzen, check for updates or ask any question.
  • Error fixes and some graphical adjustments.
  • Timings read support for all Ryzen family processors (including future Zen 3 processors).

DRAM Calculator for Ryzen v1.7.2 (May 11th, 2020)

Release notes:
  • Support OC assist for Micron E-die (A2) and CJR/DJR (A0 and A2)
  • Some correction for OC assist (Samsung B-die)
  • Additional presets for Hynix CJR / DJR (now A0 and A2)
  • Error fix: "Parse data"
  • Minor fix: voltage for Samsung B-die
  • Minor fix: some timings for Micron E-die
  • Minor fix: tWRRD for 4 DIMM configuration
  • Other bug fixes
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I hope that means I'll be able to either use safe or fast configuration now, my system is in my signature and I can never seem to tighten up my timings. But I am already at 3600MHz at 16 16 16 36, if only I had a spare 200 quid to get the new ripped 3600 CL16 2x 16gb stuff as I've got 4x8 and on a b450 with 3600 just won't work, but then I've not even tried 3200 at 14cl
 
If you have 4 modules of ram fitted be sure to select memory rank 2 in the Dram calculator.
It will not be stable at suggested settings if you use the memory rank 1 setting.
As soon as you fit 4 modules the motherboards treat them as dual rank even if they are single rank modules.
 
Shac said:
If you have 4 modules of ram fitted be sure to select memory rank 2 in the Dram calculator.
It will not be stable at suggested settings if you use the memory rank 1 setting.
As soon as you fit 4 modules the motherboards treat them as dual rank even if they are single rank modules.
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Really appreciate the reply. I'll have a try later on this evening and I'll get back to you. The only reason I spent 260 on the ram was to OC the stuff. But then I plan to get the x570 tomahawk so a part of me was thinking it was the board and then wait to try on the x570. Or eve. Trying 3200 at cl14. But fast on the calculator says 3600 at cl14 15 14
 
Shac said:
If you have 4 modules of ram fitted be sure to select memory rank 2 in the Dram calculator.
It will not be stable at suggested settings if you use the memory rank 1 setting.
As soon as you fit 4 modules the motherboards treat them as dual rank even if they are single rank modules.
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Why does the software have an option to set 4 DIMMS if it doesn't then treat the 4 DIMMS correctly? I know it's free software but needs fixed. Still.. least there is a work around.
 
Not sure I really trust the calculator to get it 100% right.

In my experience if you use it for primary timings and voltage then boom you should be good.

But secondary timings I think it's best to leave the board to do it as it will calculate the timings from the primaries. You don't need to tell it different values as your just end up with errors and instability when memtesting.

Also different boards and different Agesa versions might have different values. So again best left up to the board to deal with imo.

That's my own experience.

I've pretty much maxed out my ram anyway now. Don't think there is any point messing about with it any more.

But you know curiosity :D
 
opethdisciple said:
Not sure I really trust the calculator to get it 100% right.

In my experience if you use it for primary timings and voltage then boom you should be good.

But secondary timings I think it's best to leave the board to do it as it will calculate the timings from the primaries. You don't need to tell it different values as your just end up with errors and instability when memtesting.

Also different boards and different Agesa versions might have different values. So again best left up to the board to deal with imo.

That's my own experience.

I've pretty much maxed out my ram anyway now. Don't think there is any point messing about with it any more.

But you know curiosity :D
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Thank you for the awesome feedback. I'll definitely be trying that as well as the rank selection, I'm guessing the value of my 8pack ram will probably go down due to the new ripped stuff, definitely at some point once I've got the x570 tomahawk wait for another deal and get the new stuff looking forward in seeing what everyone manages to over clock theirs silicon Lottery and all that too.
 
The Zen2 refresh,aka,as Matisse 2 rumoured to only work on B550 according to Moores Law is Dead. Hopefully that means we might get some deals on the older Zen2 models.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The Zen2 refresh,aka,as Matisse 2 rumoured to only work on B550 according to Moores Law is Dead. Hopefully that means we might get some deals on the older Zen2 models.
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Hmmm. If AMD pulls a Zen2+ this summer, especially given the results they got with N7P on the consoles APUs, means Zen 3 would be late this year or early 2021. (that is inline with the XMG post you published on the other discussion).

However, if that theory is right, Intel going to face a pretty horrible summer having a 5Ghz Zen 2 breathing at it's neck while trying to sell the Ridiculous-Volcano Lake named 10000 series. :cool:
 
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