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opethdisciple said:
OK then, go elsewhere and buy one.

If a boat has just arrived with oranges. I am the only one to have the oranges no one else has oranges.

We all know that apple taste better than orange, and that oranges should sell for £5.

Apples are £7.50.

But because none else has oranges except me, I price the orange at £6.75 so I incentivise people for go for the better tasting apple over the orange and I make more profit on the sale.

You don't want the apple, then buy the orange.

You don't want the orange at £6.75 then wait for other retailers to come in to stock.

You still want the orange, then pay my prices.
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Or, if you could make a profit selling oranges at £5, sell them at what they should be and stop being a greedy ****er :D
 
Panos said:
a) Do not use blob to apply thermal paste. The cores are off to the side not to the center.
b) X52 if 5y old model. Are you sure is working? I have a 3900X on D15 and doesn't see over 70 on dead silent (barely 30% fan speed).
Do you use the correct mounting bracket? Try use the stock fan the CPU came with and let us know how it goes. (following step (a) above).
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ljt said:
idle still sounds a little high considering you're on a AIO. My 3700x (PBO etc off) idles around 35 if nothing is pinging the CPU and tops out about 70-75 under full load in repeat CDR15/20 runs, and that's on a Noctua NH14.

I use HwInfo to records temperatures, is that what you use?
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Going to have a proper tinker today including checking the AIO properly and its wiring. Another strange issue - some POSTs seem to fail and it goes into the BIOS with a frozen mouse/keyboard. This morning I noticed the CPU voltage was ~1.45 which seems way too high! Everything is on auto so God knows why it set that as the ceiling. Manually set it to 1.365 for now.



Temp range for idle has dropped a little (35-46C) but as you can see HWInfo is reporting a max CPU voltage of 1.45 and for brief periods the current state will jump to that. I thought you really shouldn't go much above 1.375 (1.4 absolute max)?
 
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doodah said:
Going to have a proper tinker today including checking the AIO properly and its wiring. Another strange issue - some POSTs seem to fail and it goes into the BIOS with a frozen mouse/keyboard. This morning I noticed the CPU voltage was ~1.45 which seems way too high! Everything is on auto so God knows why it set that as the ceiling. Manually set it to 1.365 for now.



Temp range for idle has dropped a little (35-46C) but as you can see HWInfo is reporting a max CPU voltage of 1.45 and for brief periods the current state will jump to that. I thought you really shouldn't go much above 1.375 (1.4 absolute max)?
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Sigh. How many times I have to repeat myself every day :(

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/33619667/
 
doodah said:
Going to have a proper tinker today including checking the AIO properly and its wiring. Another strange issue - some POSTs seem to fail and it goes into the BIOS with a frozen mouse/keyboard. This morning I noticed the CPU voltage was ~1.45 which seems way too high! Everything is on auto so God knows why it set that as the ceiling. Manually set it to 1.365 for now.

Temp range for idle has dropped a little (35-46C) but as you can see HWInfo is reporting a max CPU voltage of 1.45 and for brief periods the current state will jump to that. I thought you really shouldn't go much above 1.375 (1.4 absolute max)?
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As Panos has alluded to, 1.5v is actually normal. Its normal range is usually between 0.9v - 1.5v.

It will only go to 1.5v on 1 or 2 cores for the high boost clocks. The Ryzen CPU's basically do high voltage for high single core, low current boosts, and lower voltage when more cores are loaded for longer higher current workloads with lower frequency.

I.e. if the workload is short burst and only needs a couple of cores it'll boost to its max frequency on those cores @ 1.5v because the current draw is low.

if the workload uses multiple cores and is a sustained workload it lowers the voltage across multiple cores and lowers the frequency to keep current draw in check.
 
Fair enough (and thanks). Put the CPU voltage back to auto. Still getting 40-50s for idle, even after a service, dusting and reseating of the Kraken X52.
 
doodah said:
Fair enough (and thanks). Put the CPU voltage back to auto. Still getting 40-50s for idle, even after a service, dusting and reseating of the Kraken X52.
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Whats the temperature of the CPU after a couple of runs of Cinebench R20?

The high idles could be something as silly as a program running in the background that's constantly polling the CPU and thus causing it to boost. A lot of monitoring software and RGB control apps cause this type of behavior
 
ljt said:
Whats the temperature of the CPU after a couple of runs of Cinebench R20?

The high idles could be something as silly as a program running in the background that's constantly polling the CPU and thus causing it to boost. A lot of monitoring software and RGB control apps cause this type of behavior
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Mid 70s for multi core and mid 60s for single core.
 
Lovin my little 3600 setup, it's cool and quiet under a dh-15, tightened the timings on my 8pack ram to cl14 with dram calc. Got an all core oc to 4350mhz but I prefer it parking the cores and things at stock. Just missing sata ports on the mobo and maybe more ram, fun day!

Will enjoy dropping in a 4950x in a few months :D
 
Any one know if the recommended voltages for VDDG and VDDP which the calculator gives me need to be changed?

Because I have successfully overclocked my ram using the fast timings and all is stable. But all I have done is used the primary and secondary timings and upped the dram voltage.

I left all other voltages alone.

AIDA64 gives me a latency of 66ns but my score in the dram calc default test is around 245-250 which is poor.

Games etc all seem to be paying fine with no issues so wondering if this poor score in the dram calc is ignorable or not.
 
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