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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

opethdisciple said:
The biggest gains on Ryzen is memory.

FCLK + (ram speed + latencies)
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Depends what you're doing. Even gaming isn't that simple, as some games prefer low latency and others perform better with high FCLK/UCLK/MEMCLK even with worse latency. I'm very happy at 3600 CL16. I know that some games would be happier at 3600 CL14 but given it won't even boot if I disable Gear Down Mode, that's never going to happen with my DIMMs.
 
DragonQ said:
Depends what you're doing. Even gaming isn't that simple, as some games prefer low latency and others perform better with high FCLK/UCLK/MEMCLK even with worse latency. I'm very happy at 3600 CL16. I know that some games would be happier at 3600 CL14 but given it won't even boot if I disable Gear Down Mode, that's never going to happen with my DIMMs.
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Well from what I have seen lower latencies and the same speed doesn't equate to better fps but where it does help is in the 1% and 0.% lows. In other words it makes games feel smoother.

Leave GDM enabled (I cant disable it on mine)

The first two videos I are at 1440p. The last one I image is at 1080p. There was another video I saw recently showing the difference I speak of in the minims but I can find it atm.



 
Yeah, when I say FPS I generally mean the lows because that's all that matters once you hit around 80-90 FPS average. Regarding GDM, what I meant was that GDM requires an even CL, so the "next bump" after CL16 GDM on is CL16 GDM off, which my setup doesn't like. Therefore I'll have no chance at CL15 or CL14.
 
DragonQ said:
Yeah, when I say FPS I generally mean the lows because that's all that matters once you hit around 80-90 FPS average. Regarding GDM, what I meant was that GDM requires an even CL, so the "next bump" after CL16 GDM on is CL16 GDM off, which my setup doesn't like. Therefore I'll have no chance at CL15 or CL14.
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I see your using 32Gb anyway. Just be happy with what you got. I'm a ram overclocking noob. I probably don't really how hard it is and think it's relatively easy considering I have 8 Pack sticks which do overclock well.

Saying that tho, you could take a look at the dram cal A2/B2 preset for your configuration and see what it will take voltage wise to achieve.
 
krooton said:
I'm not chasing every last inch of performance, so would 3600 CL16 and 3200 CL14 be much of muchness when paired with a 3600 chip?

Only looking at 16gb
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Thing I've realised anyway is the ram you buy needs to be tweaked anyway as just running the ram at XMP is not really getting out of it half of what it's capable.

Even the 8 Pack 3600 CL14 sticks need to be heavily tweaked. Put them in at their default configuration and they aren't no where near as fast as they are capable.
 
opethdisciple said:
Thing I've realised anyway is the ram you buy needs to be tweaked anyway as just running the ram at XMP is not really getting out of it half of what it's capable.

Even the 8 Pack 3600 CL14 sticks need to be heavily tweaked. Put them in at their default configuration and they aren't no where near as fast as they are capable.
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Well I'm guessing then if I want to vaguely future-proof (say dropping a 4x00 in the board in a few years time) it would be better getting 3600 RAM?

I know it's all up in the air, and I am waiting until the B550 boards are released before making any decisions.
 
krooton said:
Well I'm guessing then if I want to vaguely future-proof (say dropping a 4x00 in the board in a few years time) it would be better getting 3600 RAM?

I know it's all up in the air
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there were hints that next generation will hit 2000 fclk, so maybe a 4000 capable kit would be more future proof.
 
At the moment with ram, people looking to buy right now are in limbo. You either buy ram which is a good fit for the 3000 series or you don't buy at all and see how the 4000 series functions when they do land.

Planning to buy a set of ram and then thinking your gonna overclock it when the 4000 series drops, is probably gonna be fine. But we just don't know what speeds are gonna be achievable so how can you buy based on information we don't have.
 
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