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Martini1991 said:
Why on Earth should I have parts available to resolve BIOS updates if it's a budget build for a friend etc?
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You don't have to buy any parts to resolve a BIOS update. The new Ryzen 4000 series processors will be released to a market with a full range of compatible motherboards available. When you build this future budget build for a friend, you'll have the A520 and B550 to choose from.

Or do you mean a budget Ryzen 3000 build? Then you have the B450 as they start at under £60.

I dont see what the problem is?
 
krooton said:
Prime95 hit 83, but apparently it doesn't play nicely with Ryzen, Cinebench 20 only hit 73.

I could probably do a better seating, but taking apart the machine is a faff and it is good enough for my needs.
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I wouldn't worry about Prime with CPU at stock. I only ever used that for testing overclocks on Intel CPU's. I run my 3700x at stock as it's plenty fast enough.

However I just ran CB 20 and I'm hitting 67 degrees, so 73 does sound a little high for a 3600. For reference that's run in a Phanteks pro M case with 2 x 140mm intake fans and 2 x exhaust. So airflow is pretty good.
 
ljt said:
I wouldn't worry about Prime with CPU at stock. I only ever used that for testing overclocks on Intel CPU's. I run my 3700x at stock as it's plenty fast enough.

However I just ran CB 20 and I'm hitting 67 degrees, so 73 does sound a little high for a 3600. For reference that's run in a Phanteks pro M case with 2 x 140mm intake fans and 2 x exhaust. So airflow is pretty good.
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I'm in an Anidees matx cube case, 200mm intake, 1x 140mm exhausts, so I'd expect it to run a little warmer.
 
opethdisciple said:
Pity they dropped x370 from the party as well as functionally x370 is the same as x470.
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X370 boards were as a rule hugely inferior to later B450/X470 boards, as at the time no OEM wanted to throw too much money into an AMD platform. There are exceptions, but X470 boards on average were FAR better, let alone B350 v B450. B&X 3** are probably best left in the past :)
 
Journey said:
Yep, as was said earlier in the thread pulling the price of this to a similar one of the 10600K, making the cores battle still relevent at the midrange.
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Exactly. All good for the consumers.

The 2700x dropped to £250 when the 3700x came out.

3 months later after 3700x it went sub £175

6 months later after 3700x it went sub £150

Would be incredible if we saw the same price drop for the 3700x.

If the 4700x is say for example 15% faster than the 3700x. And the 3700x drops to £150. And the 4000 series is the last gen on this platform before DDR5 ect then the 3700x at 50% the price of the 4700x would be by far the best value product to get on this generation right?

Personally I wouldn't pay £150+ or double the price for 15% performance. Value wise that's not the smart move. Then keep the 3700x until DDR5 has been out for a while. Then grab a 5000 series or whatever it is called.

Any flaws in this approach?
 
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Rossuk89 said:
Exactly. All good for the consumers.

The 2700x dropped to £250 when the 3700x came out.

3 months later after 3700x it went sub £175

6 months later after 3700x it went sub £150

Would be incredible if we saw the same price drop for the 3700x.

If the 4700x is say for example 15% faster than the 3700x. And the 3700x drops to £150. And the 4000 series is the last gen on this platform before DDR5 ect then the 3700x at 50% the price of the 4700x would be by far the best value product to get on this generation right?

Personally I wouldn't pay £150+ or double the price for 15% performance. Value wise that's not the smart move. Then keep the 3700x until DDR5 has been out for a while. Then grab a 5000 series or whatever it is called.

Any flaws in this approach?
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If you were building a system for £1000 then the £150 extra would be 15% more performance for 15% more cost.
 
Rossuk89 said:
Exactly. All good for the consumers.

The 2700x dropped to £250 when the 3700x came out.

3 months later after 3700x it went sub £175

6 months later after 3700x it went sub £150

Would be incredible if we saw the same price drop for the 3700x.

If the 4700x is say for example 15% faster than the 3700x. And the 3700x drops to £150. And the 4000 series is the last gen on this platform before DDR5 ect then the 3700x at 50% the price of the 4700x would be by far the best value product to get on this generation right?

Personally I wouldn't pay £150+ or double the price for 15% performance. Value wise that's not the smart move. Then keep the 3700x until DDR5 has been out for a while. Then grab a 5000 series or whatever it is called.

Any flaws in this approach?
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Sometimes it's better to spend more on a component and not have either buy the better one at a later date, or swap the motherboard out as well at the same time because you want more performance. paying more can mean you feel you can skip a generation...
 
Anyone here running an AMD 3900 not the X just the 3900 with the lower TDP

Have you got it under air or water and what are your temps and boost clocks like?

Just ordered one to go under water with my titan x pascal
 
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