If its 5ghz it'll be my chip of choice as well. I don't neeeeed it but who actually needs 5ghz?!
I really want a 5ghz + 16 core or more threadripper. That would go down very nicely indeed.
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I really want a 5ghz + 16 core or more threadripper. That would go down very nicely indeed.
Personally I'd rather see Zen 2 seriously go balls to the wall. I want that 3850X to be real and get 5.1GHz boost on the damn desktop, and get a 24 or 32 core Threadripper hitting 5GHz without an industrial chiller. Just to rub it it.
Loleasyrider apparently
I put money on you ending up with a 32 core chip
If it comes out and is a price that isn't outrageous then id buy that. 32 cores, 64 threads, quad channel through the io die without the drawbacks of the WX cpu's. Compatability with my current board and 8x8gb 3466 would be ideal, just slot that bad boy in for a serious upgrade. Anybody want to buy a 1950x that happily boosts 4.2+?
I dunno dude, I think they will bin for the desktop and agree with most of what you said about binning a few pages back. What I'm not sure on is what happens with TR? They claim that TR is currently the top what? 5% of silicon? Yet on TR3 we get some average run of the mill silicon? I dunno.. I hope we see a anniversary edition monster TR as well, call it something like the Threadripper Godlike Edition (or at least for a year until something better comes out) and be done with it.
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I'll be honest in that it didn't sound right as I was typing, but given how Zen 2 is designed and the performance envelop Threadripper has, you could argue it doesn't need top-end silicon, unless the previous generations. 32 Zen 2 cores within a 250W TDP would allow for, what, 4.5GHz all core boost? Using 4 8 core chiplets, you wouldn't need golden, high-clocking silicon to do that. 48 cores boosting to 4.3Gz? 8 6 core chiplets with actually quite low clocking potential. 1 of those chiplets would go into a low-end Ryzen 3, but 8 of those in a single package?
Just random thoughts, no substance to it really.
Lets not forget TSMC is on schedule for 5nm mass production in Q1-2 2020 the latest
Forget it.
Both AMD’s Zen 2 and Zen 3 x86 processors will be made in 7nm. “It’s a long node, like 28nm…and when you have a long node it lets the design team focus on micro-architecture and systems solutions” rather than redesign standard blocks for the next process, Papermaster said.
https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1332049
Speaking to the EE Times, Papermaster said that, while AMD planned to run its second and third generation Zen architecture x86 microprocessors on 7nm, it would likely be a 'long node', like the 28nm process, "and when you have a long node it lets the design team focus on micro-architecture and systems solutions", rather than simply redesigning standard ‘blocks'.
https://www.theinquirer.net/inquire...hift-the-toughest-process-move-in-generations
We will be lucky if we get Ryzen 3000 on time.
It's an odd one isn't it? I mean you can see that for that 3850 they really are going to need some properly nice binned silicon, but also all of a sudden you have 3850x which lets be honest is going to perform somewhere over and above something like a 2950x (unless in a memory crippled scenario) so on the desktop you have HEDT+ performance from last year and the core count to match, for total crazyness it could also potentially run on like a sub £100 board which seems bonkers to me. What it doesn't have of course is the PCI-E lanes and quad channel memory. Just how they position TR now will be very interesting to me. But yea a 32 core 5ghz part would just be absolutely crazy and I think also possible.
Threadripper was nothing more than a "dude, hold my beer" skunkworks project on Zen. Everything about it is "lol look what we made". Christ, even the name! And I think AMD were genuinely surprised it became as popular as it did. So much so Threadripper 2 started getting a bit serious and had some proper refinements, and also pushed the technology a little with the 32 core 2990WX, with all the memory access woes that come with being experimental.
I think Zen 2 will cement Threadripper as a proper workstation platform, none of this "high end desktop" marketing faff. A proper workstation is not just about MOAR COREZ, but it's about storage capabilities, GPU arrays, networking and connectivity. Yes, we could be looking at 48 core Threadripper, technically a 64 core is possible, but it'll have a bazillion PCIe Gen4 lanes all bifurcated and split up for lots of compute cards, RAID arrays, NVMe storage, 10Gb networking, fibre channel, etc. etc. That's what a true workstation platform offers. Will we see a X499 Strix Gaming or Aorus 1337 H4axorz RGB gaming setup? Of course, because of idiots and money. And that's fine.
The Ryzen 9s will offer some beastly consumer-level performance for encoding your YouTube videos, videographer stuff and Blender, but proper actual production will be done on Threadripper because of how the platform will enable professional workflows with professional hardware. That's how it will be positioned.
Anyone who plays Dwarf Fortress for a startIf its 5ghz it'll be my chip of choice as well. I don't neeeeed it but who actually needs 5ghz?!
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I had to look this up. This game deserve more advertising!Anyone who plays Dwarf Fortress for a start
Looking at the wiki it is ram latency and cpu cache, not cpu speed that helps dwarf fortress. Unless you were speaking tongue in cheek, in which case, you got me.
That's what you have to love about it. It wasn't born out of the normal business requirements, it was a group of geeks that got together, looked at epyc and made it happen because they wanted it for themselves, a labour of love almost and that plays out in it's name and the story behind it if you believe the story as told. Honestly I think the name for me was a breath of fresh air, I mean ryzen was a step in the right direction but Threadripper, I dunno, it just makes me grin. It plays to the geek in me and I think they nailed it and really understood the psyche of the target market. Before TR I had sat and watched a million reviews of chips such as the 7980xe and other high end chips, did I want them? Of course i did but they were mostly out of reach with silly 2k+ price tags so nothing ever actually captured me and made me part with my money.
Oh sure, for five minutes. After that you'll be watching a slide show
But it seems I was wrong and cache + RAM latency is the biggest FPS killer for that game.
Btw after a couple hours it's not unusual for the game to be kicking around hundreds of units (each with path-finding active all the time), thousands of items, hundreds of thousands of terrain tiles... and it calculates updates for each of them every game loop AFAIK.
And it's single-threaded only
Thread ripper is pretty much what I reckon a lot of people dreamed about many many years ago.. but thought it would be multi processer. Would love a zen 2 thread ripper setup if multi cards a actually were still supported properly.
Yup TR is awesome, it's a proper 'High End Platform'. Amusingly the HEDT platforms are pretty much moving to the high end mainstream especially with the 3850 and 3850X if they are indeed going to exist (we basically have confirmation of them but not 100% and not confirmed stats). As such TR4 is just going to expand and get better
Very interested to see the TR 3xxx range and performance vs the 2xxx and mainstream Ryzen 3xxx. Got to wait for August-October though.
Wow. Fast replies, thanks guys. Just hope it hits that magical 5ghz
Desperate for replies as they have run out of topics talking amongst themselves
5ghz gets boring after a bit
easyrider apparently
Yeah 5ghz has a certain ring to it...Already worn the T Shirt
I've already got a buyer for my 9900k
IF this so called 3700x 16\32 5ghz chip for £329 actually materialises , is faster in games, sorts out the latency issues and not just gets a decent score in Cinebench.
Having said that though..if the 3700x is poor in Audio Production compared to 9900k then I'll just buy an AMD gaming Rig aswell , it would be silly not to.
I do like this game though...
Let's create our dream AMD chip and price out of thin air to upgrade to in April, cough, I mean May, cough, I mean June...
I don't know though , the £149 8\16 3600, 9900k beater , might be the choice for gamers
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IF it exists, and IF you read the thread, YOU'd see the 3700X is a 12c/24t part.
I read the thread but couldn't see a link about the 3700x being a 12 core part?
Distracted said the 12 core was speculation ....
Where did the 12\24 surface ?
Link?
Or is that a game entry into the "invent your perfect 3xxxx chip with price " game