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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

CuriousTomCat said:
Yes if the 3700x has 50% more cores, 15% higher clockspeed and 15% higher IPC = 80% faster than a 2700x. Normally generational upgrades are never worth it but in this case it definately is :)
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That’s 30% in general use, 80% in Cinebench.

If the top 3000 chips are significantly better I’ll get one and upgrade the kids PC with my 2700X but so far my current CPU doesn’t seem to struggle with anything. Loving XFR and a little extra BCLK.
 
HRL said:
That’s 30% in general use, 80% in Cinebench.

If the top 3000 chips are significantly better I’ll get one and upgrade the kids PC with my 2700X but so far my current CPU doesn’t seem to struggle with anything. Loving XFR and a little extra BCLK.
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You won't see a 2700X struggling at least for two-three years more.
30% in average applications, and 80% at 100% load, not only Cinebench.
 
HRL said:
That’s 30% in general use, 80% in Cinebench.

If the top 3000 chips are significantly better I’ll get one and upgrade the kids PC with my 2700X but so far my current CPU doesn’t seem to struggle with anything. Loving XFR and a little extra BCLK.
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That's +32.25% in general use and +98.375% in cinebench as those performance increases will be multiplicative rather than additive.
 
Marak said:
That's +32.25% in general use and +98.375% in cinebench as those performance increases will be multiplicative rather than additive.
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That can’t be right. I’d say there’s no chance of nearly 3800 in Cinebench. I get over 1900 now.

Guess we shall have to wait and see.
 
Do any video rendering..... You just saved yourself massive time. Browsing the desktop and the web? No.

Gaming.. engine dependent, but still largely based on clock speed.
 
Scougar said:
Do any video rendering..... You just saved yourself massive time. Browsing the desktop and the web? No.

Gaming.. engine dependent, but still largely based on clock speed.
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That’s the only place Ryzen loses out , when a higher clock speed rather than multi core / thread impacts on games. It’s not to a huge extent in practical terms but is there.

By the looks of the 3700x spec’s this gap will be no longer an issue. Currently I run my 1700 at 3.7 but plan to upgrade to a 3700x which looks like it should hit 5.0 .
 
HRL said:
That can’t be right. I’d say there’s no chance of nearly 3800 in Cinebench. I get over 1900 now.

Guess we shall have to wait and see.
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I'd predict close to 3900 in Cinebench. I already get 3572 with my ThreadRipper at 4.1GHz all core with relatively crap RAM compared to some Samsung B-Die. Assuming scaling of my ThreadRipper to 5.0GHz is linear it would be ~4350 in Cinebench. Not sure that would be reached yet, but 3900 out of the box should be a viable number to hit pretty easy for a 16c Ryzen 3xxx.
 
HRL said:
That can’t be right. I’d say there’s no chance of nearly 3800 in Cinebench. I get over 1900 now.

Guess we shall have to wait and see.
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That's was just a combination of a +15% +15% +50% increase in IPC/Clockspeed/Cores. There will probably be some other factors such as ram speed, infinity fabric latency which may slow this down of course.

But if Cinebench was solely dependent on core performance alone then that is what it would get rather than the +30% and +80% that the other chap said. My main point was that the performance gains would be multiplicative not additive.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
so these are now twice as quick ? based of a cinebench score lol
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Already caveated that previously my friend:

Marak said:
But if Cinebench was solely dependent on core performance alone then that is what it would get rather than the +30% and +80% that the other chap said. My main point was that the performance gains would be multiplicative not additive.
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