A lot of them did supply a BIOS for Zen+.
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A lot of them did supply a BIOS for Zen+.
It'll be a token gesture for a token feature and won't impact sales at all. As discussed and theorised previously, it's more likely PCIe 4 on the desktop will be used to drive lots of onboard storage like NVMe drives and other devices that were usually starved because of the graphics card/s taking priority. You can't BIOS fix that on a X470 board, and if that's something you're interested in then you'll pay for a properly-engineered PCIe 4 X570 board.
It's likely that BIOS updates won't happen because the board will have no use for it. There are no PCIe 4 graphics cards for mainstream users and nobody is going to want to sacrifice their top 16x slot for a NVMe RAID card.
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Not quite the same thing.
If Zen+ didn't work with their current boards then you'd see AMD getting slaughtered.
. There will be an unofficial bios anyway I am sure, I am not too bothered about PCIe4 support at this time.
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This is like the late 90s when people upgraded their CPU after 1 or 2 years. I never thought those days would return. I really do hope you guys get good support for your existing motherboards.
It was mainly aimed at humbugs post about expecting some manufacturers not releasing an updated bios for older motherboards
Amd said at the original release of Ryzen they would support until 2020. Up until now, the X370 and X470 mobo's fully support all released CPU's. There is no reason whatsoever to think they will not support Ryzen 2 Either. What may or may not change is PCIE4 support for X370 and X470 mobo's..........................not any sort of a deal breaker anyway because it's going to be a long way ahead before any GPU's use PCIE4 anyway.
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As long as the performance increase matches expectations then I'll be more than happy to buy a x570 motherboard; I intend to keep my 2700x in a spare machine so will need the x470i for that anyway.
I did intend to sell the 2700x and reuse the motherboard so I do understand it's a plan a few people will have, but most consumers probably buy CPU + Mobo. Pairing a CPU with a Mobo from 3 or 4 generations back might just be asking for issues due to the architecture evolving pretty quickly, and I hope AMD don't end up making compromises just to covet the "good guy" reputation.
In any case, I'm looking forward to the release as the GPU market is an overpriced, stagnated mess right now.
I did intend to sell the 2700x and reuse the motherboard so I do understand it's a plan a few people will have, but most consumers probably buy CPU + Mobo. Pairing a CPU with a Mobo from 3 or 4 generations back might just be asking for issues due to the architecture evolving pretty quickly, and I hope AMD don't end up making compromises just to covet the "good guy" reputation.
In any case, I'm looking forward to the release as the GPU market is an overpriced, stagnated mess right now.
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I have a C6H along with a 1700 right now, I will probably upgrade both when the time comes to ensure I get the most out of the cpu. Selling the C6H + 1700 then should probably get me ~£150 toward the board anyway.
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It will work, its just a question of how well the board can handle the chip. Also if you are looking into overclocking the cpu, then its a whole different story.
But as a chip just slotting into the mobo with no overclocking it should be fine
Since VRMs are massively overkill even for cheaper B450, I don't think any overclock will cause problems.
Unfortunately I'm not made of money, so I have to plan my purchases. I bought the X370 Taichi which cost me £220. I went with the theory of getting one of the highest rated boards at the time, with the idea of keeping it for the life of the AM4 socket, and just replacing the CPU every few years. It's currently only running a 1600x, and likely will be replaced with it's 3000 series replacement if the rumours of it being an 8c/16t hold true. It won't be overclocked either if the leaked boost speeds are all core clocks.
If the Taichi's VRM can easily handle an overclocked 2700x then I assumed it would easily take a 3600x.
I've read that there may be an issue supporting all the 3000 series CPU's in the bios due to storage space inside the bios chips. For me this isn't an issue as the motherboard vendors can issue a new bios that only supports the 3K chips, or keep the older bioses that support the 1and2k chips. Give the user the option to update depending on which CPU they want to use, once you've updated the bios then you have to change the CPU to your new 3K series and it'll work no problem.
Hopefully they'll work it out that they can support all CPU's with the space they have one one bios, but there are ways around it if needed.
Hopefully they'll work it out that they can support all CPU's with the space they have one one bios, but there are ways around it if needed.
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Well, anything upto 8c/16t should be handled fine, but of course if you wander into 12c and 16c territory, there could be problems
Yeah the x370 should be able to handle almost any chip you throw at it tbh. In theory, anything upto 8c should be perfectly fine, but its likely it can handle 12c and 16c too, but it depends on the OC