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I am just shaking my head at the mere thought of a nvme raid 0, raid 1 yes by all means, but raid 0? raid 0 should never have ever existed in the first place as raid is about redundancy, but ssd's should have long killed off raid 0 now.
RAID 0 was a necessity in getting sufficient read speeds to edit Sony XDCAM footage natively. Even more so with Scarlet 2K and RED 4K. Even now SSDs are too expensive to get the tens of GB needed for your rushes, but chain together a boat load of 4TB mechanical drives and you can just about get there. If money is no object, RAID 0 with NVMe drives totally eliminates the read speed requirement for crazy-ass footage.
 
RAID 0 was also back from the days when drives were small and you needed to stripe across them just to get enough continuous storage for your large database, and to get access times down to sensible levels. Most of these things have historical reasons why they were needed at the time (else they wouln't have been invented and gone into general use), even if they have been superseded by new technology.
 
What does it have to do with AMD? Intel have had a process lead for their entire existence, yet the slide suggests a process they were supposed to be using in shipped parts in 2016 now might not be ready until 2022. That is embarrassing regardless of anything AMD is doing.

it just shows you how far ahead they are compared to amd. that they dont need to push out products. its not embarrasing its easy. you dont just ship faster gear when there is no need for it when you can flog all thats needed now or...better than your competition.
 
it just shows you how far ahead they are compared to amd. that they dont need to push out products. its not embarrasing its easy. you dont just ship faster gear when there is no need for it when you can flog all thats needed now or...better than your competition.

Since the launch of the first generation Ryzen in April 2017, intel are no longer ahead of AMD. Actually, they are lagging behind, and the upcoming 7nm Ryzen 3000 launch will be embarrasing for intel.
You will basically get something like a 10W Ryzen that is as fast or faster than a 35W i-something.

Oh, and in Germany, the retail price of Ryzen 7 2700 is now €211.
 
they are ahead what are you even on about ? ryzen are still slower than intel cpus. as said why do intel need anything quicker if amd are slower ? you need the competition to be better. this that they better they are slower. if they were faster we wouldnt be having this talk. its beyond logical. they arent lagging behind they have little competion from amd. so they do as they please. amd need to bring a competitive cpu or products to make intel bring us there faster cpus.

thats why these new hyped up cpus better be better than current intel range or yet again you will be pulling your hair out. for another few years. im surprised most amd people arent bold by now :D .

the thing is its the stupid marketing hype thats made most of this possible. instead of doing how they have and say its only slightly slower priced well people would be very happy but.......now they been marketing it as a intel 9900k killer based on one benchmark what happens as soon as all the other benchmarks and other things peopel actually do and if the intel chip is quicker ? the general response will be more amd marketing hype they screwed up.

instead of oh..its a great cpu for a great price. the hype is very dangerous. amd are their own worst enemy or the marketing is anyway.

just take a small portion of pro amd people in here. they have swallowed the cinebench score straight down to the belly. riding it like its going to be like a intel massacre. what do you think intel will do ? they wont shout about anything or crow about this or that they just deliver the better product. no silly this that. its just out on sale does what you want.
 
just take a small portion of pro amd people in here. they have swallowed the cinebench score straight down to the belly. riding it like its going to be like a intel massacre. what do you think intel will do ? they wont shout about anything or crow about this or that they just deliver the better product. no silly this that. its just out on sale does what you want.

Sorry, are you actually attempting to say that Intel don't sit blowing their own trumpet constantly while AMD do? That's gaslighting on a slightly too extreme level for even this threads standards.

Think about what you're saying. Intel advertise. Massively. Several thousand times more than AMD do, but apparently, according to you, Intel just quietly put out better products while AMD do all the shouting... riiiiiiight.

There's (as yet) been nothing official from AMD on what Ryzen 3 will be. It's all leaks and enthusiast speculation. There's perhaps a reason many in here popped you on ignore, chap.
 
There's perhaps a reason many in here popped you on ignore, chap.
Yeah it's the continuous stream of ******** from him.

After seeing the Intel Roadmap up to 2021 from the other page, not a single thing on there competes. So yeah...
 
Yeah it's the continuous stream of ******** from him.

After seeing the Intel Roadmap up to 2021 from the other page, not a single thing on there competes. So yeah...

Not sure who you mean, but since I blocked about a dozen people on here it has been a much more pleasant experience.

Back on topic, the fact that AMS are tiny compared with Intel it's remarkable how competitive they are. We really could do with even more competition to move things forward and keep prices keen.
 
RAID 0 was also back from the days when drives were small and you needed to stripe across them just to get enough continuous storage for your large database, and to get access times down to sensible levels. Most of these things have historical reasons why they were needed at the time (else they wouln't have been invented and gone into general use), even if they have been superseded by new technology.

Why not stripe with raid10?
 
how did toms hardware get a 8 core 9900k 15 watts idle, when my 6 core non htt 8600k is 18watts idle with cstates enabled and offset voltage enabled?

very very curious.

my 2600x with everything enabled is 10 watts idle on cpu package.

Their 2700x uses less power than their 2600x idle, data seems bogus.
 
Getting excited for this now, my trusty 4770k has served me well but it’s time for an upgrade. And I haven’t had AMD in my rig since the glory days of the first Athlon chips. People seem to be blasé about 8 core now, but for me it’s going to be a big deal.

I'm the same Wucked. It'll be a sad day to let my 4770k go but (hopefully) the time is right.
 
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how did toms hardware get a 8 core 9900k 15 watts idle, when my 6 core non htt 8600k is 18watts idle with cstates enabled and offset voltage enabled?

very very curious.

my 2600x with everything enabled is 10 watts idle on cpu package.

Their 2700x uses less power than their 2600x idle, data seems bogus.

Something with your setup or measurements isn't right?
 
Guys, what’s the best option for a mad system? Trying to decide on what to go for. A 9700k or a 2700x and pc is used for gaming and internet.

Mobo as died for my x58 of so no option of waiting and got a budget of 550 to spend
 
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