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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

ED209 said:
Guys, what’s the best option for a mad system? Trying to decide on what to go for. A 9700k or a 2700x and pc is used for gaming and internet.

Mobo as died for my x58 of so no option of waiting and got a budget of 550 to spend
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9700k for pure gaming , heck even 9600k will do fine, both overclocked to 5ghz or higher - though 9700k makes more sense in your case

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £557.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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ryzen 3000 will be in reseller stores selling in July .... will be at computex. Mobo pre-orders might be after computex and early like for x470 and z390 . but ryzen 3000 if def july !
 
ED209 said:
Guys, what’s the best option for a mad system? Trying to decide on what to go for. A 9700k or a 2700x and pc is used for gaming and internet.

Mobo as died for my x58 of so no option of waiting and got a budget of 550 to spend
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If you can't wait.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/recon-ry2-amd-ryzen-5-2600-3.40ghz-value-gaming-bundle-bu-09e-og.html

Drop the R5 3600 when it comes.

If your gpu needs upgrading.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-38g-sp.html

You got some leftover.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cruc...-6.0gb-s-7mm-solid-state-drive-hd-06b-cr.html
 
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ED209 said:
Guys, what’s the best option for a mad system? Trying to decide on what to go for. A 9700k or a 2700x and pc is used for gaming and internet.

Mobo as died for my x58 of so no option of waiting and got a budget of 550 to spend
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This is what I Brought about 6 weeks ago and am really impressed with the speed it runs at coming from an old i7 2700k the above kit runs every thing I do great.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £534.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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ED209 said:
Guys, what’s the best option for a mad system? Trying to decide on what to go for. A 9700k or a 2700x and pc is used for gaming and internet.

Mobo as died for my x58 of so no option of waiting and got a budget of 550 to spend
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Spend £50 on another X58 board, then sell it when you can get a 3000 series CPU, even if you lose £25 it's better than being forced into upgrading before you are ready. :)
 
id do as above or bag a cheap 2nd deal on a older i5 i7 bundle then re sell when you have better options. the 9700 is far faster than the 2700x . 2700x is about the same performance in games as older i7s that are about 100 quid 2nd hand. the only benefit of having one is the extra cores which are useful or the possible 2nd upgrade to another cpu but you will still be slightly limited by having a newer cpu on a newer platform.
 
ED209 said:
Guys, what’s the best option for a mad system? Trying to decide on what to go for. A 9700k or a 2700x and pc is used for gaming and internet.

Mobo as died for my x58 of so no option of waiting and got a budget of 550 to spend
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You might need to start your own thread. The 9700K bundle in OCUK will cost you at least 300 quids more. lol. But, it will be 5% faster.
 
LePhuronn said:
You know when 4K8K and DG are kicking off at each other when the page is full of blank lines :p
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Interesting because I did the same with your posts - blank lines, just not to read your aggressive attacks on other members. But then realised that it's not worth it and left this policy :D
 
I don't think it will make much odds to myself if it doesn't "beat" the 9900k. If it's a good bit cheaper and comes close then I'm happy but that is my own opinion.
I guess I'll see a massive improvement over the i5-2500k anyway.
 
4K8KW10 said:
your aggressive attacks on other members
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I'm aggressive? Oh OK, sorry. But I'm pretty sure if I "attacked" anybody I'd have been banned by now, so I won't concede that one.

But then it's very easy these days for being forthright to be interpreted as aggression, so perhaps the issue lies with those who read my text ;)
 
ED209 said:
I can get the 9700k, gigabyte z390 UD and 8gb of 3200mhz ran for just short of my budget.
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The Z390 UD is a horrid board, terrible VRM on it, if you are buying a K chip you'll want at least the Aorus Pro/Elite/Wifi at about £160-180, or another brand with equivalent specification on the power deliver side of things. You can get 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair 3000MHz RAM for £77 if you shop around a bit, so that leaves you £300-320 for your CPU.

As I said before, the sensible thing to do is get a £50 X58 board, and then upgrade in the summer, RAM is dropping daily, and I highly doubt a Ryzen 3000 8c CPU is going to be £370, so you'll either end up spending the same or less once you factor in that £50. :)

EDIT: As an example, you could get this if you must have a new system then flog the board and CPU if you feel it worthy of upgrade when the 3000 series comes out.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core inc. HSF.
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory

Total: £297.15.

Leaves you £250, and even if you sold the CPU and RAM for £100 in 3 months, you'd still have £350 to get an X570 board and an 8c/16t CPU. ;)
 
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I've not blocked anyone for the simple reason that no one person holds a monopoly on the truth, The Donald excepted :P, and opposing opinions actually help to filter what is nonsense from what is interesting/relevant.
As much as ~dg~ has a single-track mind, I'm more concerned that his keyboard lacks either a CAPS LOCK or a SHIFT button than I am about whether he has anything accurate to say. Please make our lives better by utilising capital letters where they are supposed to be; you'll get less abusive replies if you do. :P
 
i dont mind the responzes to be honest. people come here to talk debate about techy things. yet some people cant do that without being biased. you have just stated i have a single track mind yet i will be buying one of these chips if decent straight away at launch if they deliver on what they promise. im not biased towards a company. companies just want your money. being biased is stupid. i just want the best product for my money. if intel make it i buy that. if amd make it i buy them. the problem is many here sheepishly just stay brand loyal even though its a slower product and defend that company beyond loyal because they own that product. its pretty stupid tbh. buying a slower product just because they are brand loyal yet the company doesnt love you. they love your money.

i type az i do on purpose. its for my own entertainment. as often the only good response a person of weak entelengence can bring is punctuation and grandma.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
i dont mind the responzes to be honest. people come here to talk debate about techy things. yet some people cant do that without being biased. you have just stated i have a single track mind yet i will be buying one of these chips if decent straight away at launch if they deliver on what they promise. im not biased towards a company. companies just want your money. being biased is stupid. i just want the best product for my money. if intel make it i buy that. if amd make it i buy them. the problem is many here sheepishly just stay brand loyal even though its a slower product and defend that company beyond loyal because they own that product. its pretty stupid tbh. buying a slower product just because they are brand loyal yet the company doesnt love you. they love your money.

i type az i do on purpose. its for my own entertainment. as often the only good response a person of weak entelengence can bring is punctuation and grandma.
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Just about every post of yours that i read is either bating people into arguments or accusing others of bias, its got to the point where seeing your name in a thread is indication of an argument.
 
its how you see it. no bait. what is a topic ? its a debate ? its peoples opinions. we are trying to talk about the new amd cpus. some people are blindly biased in here. some are intel biased . if you are biased you cant debate honestly. you have your own opinion already formed. i try and bring actual debate but what happens is often those same biased people will then just bleat on. rather than leave the bias at the door and bring actual data or facts to prove what they are saying is true. this thread is a prime eg of this. one cinebench post. thats it ! some here say the new cpus are like jesus second coming. we have no evidence of that.

try and remain neutral or present evidence of what you saying is true. then people wont question it. if you being questioned on what you said and dont like it why would you post or respond on a topic or debate ? :confused:
 
8GB of RAM isn't an option for high end gaming, its only viable for budget builds in which case you wouldn't spend £360 on a CPU, that's a ridiculous price for any main stream level CPU let alone one that doesn't have SMT.
 
@~>Dg<~ there are dozens of reviews which show just how competitive Ryzen is with Intel in games, its not just about Cinebench.

humbug said:
8GB of RAM isn't an option for high end gaming, its only viable for budget builds in which case you wouldn't spend £360 on a CPU, that's a ridiculous price for any main stream level CPU let alone one that doesn't have SMT.
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@ED209 I might add...

What GPU are you planing on getting? I've seen people spend the same or more on the CPU than the GPU and that's just madness as a CPU costing less than half as much would produce exactly the same performance with the given GPU.
For the most part the CPU is far less important than the GPU, the GPU is where your money should go.
 
Journey said:
EDIT: As an example, you could get this if you must have a new system then flog the board and CPU if you feel it worthy of upgrade when the 3000 series comes out.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core inc. HSF.
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory

Total: £297.15.
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That's nice. For £40 more, op can go for this . . .

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...3200mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-08l-tg.html

For either build.
 
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