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cause 1080ti will be faster than Navi ?? Got feeling 1080ti will be with us as long as 970's and 290's

No, he has GTX 1080, not 1080 Ti. And if he had 1080 Ti, why would he got rid of it to buy an "inferior" Navi?
You didn't understand what happens.
 
No, he has GTX 1080, not 1080 Ti. And if he had 1080 Ti, why would he got rid of it to buy an "inferior" Navi?
You didn't understand what happens.
aaaaa true. I thing Navi will be 1:1 to 1080 thats my bet
 
Huge manufacturing compared to amd, can't keep up with demand even though their prices are sky high, and you think they are done?

You're a funny guy

Don't be upset. Rejoice in the fact that AMD will rule the server and desktop market in performance very soon. That thermal nuclear 9900k is soon to be irrelevant as well.
 
What have Intel got lined up in 2019?

They surely can't make Skylake any bigger?

On the AMD front we'll have to see how successful chiplets is. Could be worse latencies than the CCX design.
 
What have Intel got lined up in 2019?

They surely can't make Skylake any bigger?

On the AMD front we'll have to see how successful chiplets is. Could be worse latencies than the CCX design.
thats only thing im worried about. But You can always run program on 1 chiplet 6/8 cores is enough for most games same as I run some games on 1 ccx 4c/8t i run some benchamrks tests and decide if i got Pure 8 cores 1 ccx 12threads ect.
Gotta love process lasso for core managment
 
So, you will be buying a new AMD card but leave your nephew with an nvidia, why? :eek:
Why not simply sell your GTX 1080 and give him the ASrock 590? :confused:

The 1080 GTX is the faster card out of the 2 but if AdoredTV info is right the high end navi will be Vega64 + performance for $250 and use low power so will keep heat and noise down which is a big + for me.
 
Don't be upset. Rejoice in the fact that AMD will rule the server and desktop market in performance very soon. That thermal nuclear 9900k is soon to be irrelevant as well.

I've said many times now. I really hope and want them to. It keeps Intel on their toes and means I get to buy more advanced Intel parts. Couldn't do it without AMD.
 
3850X yeee 500 quid tasty

Was thinking exactly the same thing :D

The desperation that is "Comet Lake" will simply be a complete damp squid compared to a 3850x, assuming Adored's sources are correct. No reason not to trust his sources really, because he has always been spot on in the past.
 
Interesting leak, I do hope it will be true but I would take it with a pinch of salt.

That 3600X looks very tasty - 8c16t with a 4.8GHz boot for $230, assuming there are no major surprises performance wise it will be the new sweet spot with descent clock speed and enough threads to run every game chucked at it for the next few years.

I still have some concerns over the latency between the Chiplets and the IO die. Poor inter core latency already hurts Zen 1 in some workloads and potentially increasing it with Zen 2 is not going to help. Furthermore, after seeing how the 2990wx performs I want to know how AMD will get around the memory bandwidth limitations of dual channel RAM with 16 Core parts. The 2990wx falls apart in tasks when the memory can't feed the cores fast enough and although the 3800x may supposedly only have half the cores, it only has half the available memory bandwidth of the 2990wx.

But until the for the high-ups at Intel...
 
The 2990WX falls over because only 2 of its dies are directly connected to the memory, so when all 4 dies are in use 2 of them have to double-hop to get fed with data. This issue doesn't exist when there's only 2 working dies.

As for inter-core latency, the entire Zen 2 philosophy is based around chiplets containing the cores and then all talking to each other through a central I/O die. It's been suggested that the I/O has a copy of each chiplet's L3 cache so there's no need to round trip to a chiplet to get its processing results. The specifics of how EPYC Rome will work aren't available, but I'm pretty sure AMD will have inter core latency as their 1st priority if their entire design philosophy is connecting individual chiplets to a central I/O controller.
 
Interesting leak, I do hope it will be true but I would take it with a pinch of salt.

That 3600X looks very tasty - 8c16t with a 4.8GHz boot for $230, assuming there are no major surprises performance wise it will be the new sweet spot with descent clock speed and enough threads to run every game chucked at it for the next few years.

I still have some concerns over the latency between the Chiplets and the IO die. Poor inter core latency already hurts Zen 1 in some workloads and potentially increasing it with Zen 2 is not going to help. Furthermore, after seeing how the 2990wx performs I want to know how AMD will get around the memory bandwidth limitations of dual channel RAM with 16 Core parts. The 2990wx falls apart in tasks when the memory can't feed the cores fast enough and although the 3800x may supposedly only have half the cores, it only has half the available memory bandwidth of the 2990wx.

But until the for the high-ups at Intel...

The 2990 is a powerhouse, if you understand what is on offer. You have half the cores that take more time to access, but that is much faster than sending the work off to an external bus. The 2990 isn't a desktop part.
 
Was thinking exactly the same thing :D

The desperation that is "Comet Lake" will simply be a complete damp squid compared to a 3850x, assuming Adored's sources are correct. No reason not to trust his sources really, because he has always been spot on in the past.
Not 100% spot on but he's always close to the mark. I think the Reddit leak had some very odd numbers across the board especially in regards to clock speeds and core counts. But the Ryzen stuff was more interesting than the ThreadRipper stuff.

Looking forward to CES now. If they hit 5GHz with 'only' a 10% IPC uplift that's literally 5.5GHz effective on Coffee Lake. Nothing there can perform like that. If they get the cherry version with 15% IPC uplift that's 5.75GHz effective and that effectively sinks Intel's i9 range completely. When you have a 16c 32t CPU with single core performance that far in excess of the 9900K at a price lower than the 9900K that's not just beating Intel. That's providing an excuse for a mass exodus and a lot of very very butthurt fanboys.
 
Will wait for performance and prices, rumours are all fine and dandy but on tech sites in particular they have an annoying tendency to become fact during the course of a thread.
 
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