Very true, but it'll be a long time before that happens.
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Very true, but it'll be a long time before that happens.
Seems 7nm GPU's have a lead in production but those could be server cards. AMD are already beating the pants off the competition in the CPU market, so maybe Navi will be pushed out first. That said a lot would probably depend on the consoles.
I reckon they're both landing more or less at the same time; both will be introduced at CES with possibly more details at Computex. EPYC Rome and 7nm Vega Instinct will then hit retail and once those supply chains are nicely loaded we'll see Ryzen land about July and Navi about September.
So that would make it a Threadripper, not a Ryzen
Hey it was a dumb guess.
Or as the rumors say it'll need a new b550/x570 motherboard
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Ryzen 5 3600X and Ryzen 7 3700X competition:
https://videocardz.com/newz/south-k...agency-teases-ryzen-7-3700x-and-ryzen-5-3600x
https://videocardz.com/newz/south-k...agency-teases-ryzen-7-3700x-and-ryzen-5-3600x
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Hey it was a dumb guess.
Yes RyZen 9 may need a new motherboard X570 / B550, but only due to the power requirements, AdoredTV was basically saying, yes they could probably run on our X470 motherboards, but they don't want to risk people putting them into B450 boards and killing the board or CPU or both due to inadequate power. therefore they will possible only be supported on the newer boards, however all of the other RyZen 3000 CPU's will work on current and older generation boards.
Every board is going to need a bios update to support any RyZen 3000 CPU, if they don't want to risk you putting a RyZen 9 in your current board, the microcode for those CPU's just wont be included in your bios update.
15mins 08 secs in the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdsTBsH-rI
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If AMD are pumping 7nm GPU's out of the door, those are the Vega's for professional market right? what about the chips with decent, they'll filter down the stack i assume for other Instict cards? wonder if AMD will push any out for enthusiast markets? im guessing probably not due to the cost of HBM, not unless they migrate them to GDDR6 interposers or whatnot....
I don't see a 7nm Vega consumer card now. All the extra bits they added don't add gaming performance and the boost you can get from the 7nm shrink would only put it in line with the leaked Navi 3080, but with all the extra expense of HBM. And in turn, with Navi coming soon it's probably not cost effective to rework 7nm Vega onto a GDDR6 controller for a short-life card.
I don't know why HArdware Unboxed get any credence/airtime on this forum. They have been proven time and time again to be shills and paid for.
Also they are just salty they didn't get the leaks. And they have previous with AdoredTV. They don't get on
"Only a few days before launch that pricing is finalised"
WHAT ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. This guy clearly has no clue how a business is run!
yes 8 cores at 5ghz be brilliant for gamers but option there for people who need more cores where ipc is not the greatest concern,its a win win for all .....i think you will be able to drop a zen2 8c/16 thread into a x470 and older motherboards maybe not taking advantage of the newer tech but the average person would'nt be able to tell ....if they did bring faster chips i.e more power hungry for the enthusiast which we all are, afew new faster sku's shich needs a new chipset better vrm's well amd havent lied to anyone a slight deviation maybe but they are pushing the envelope and innovating ....muzaic or what ever his name is cant be bothered scrolling back to find out going on about people not understanding and market segmention lol is he an intel shill or something ....if its seems confusing at first read a little things soon fall into place its not hard is it ....people aree becoming more savvy these days even my mother didnt have a clue 10years ago now shes asking me about duckduck go because she sick of being bombarded by advertising ....think we all remeber the bad intel days had to have a new board with every release ....zen2 should be a good/great product with or without the hype much better than intes 14nm++++++ rubbish ....seen some interesting article on the zen3 and 4 still at the design stage but none the less very interesting i think amd are just getting started
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Hopefully we don't have to wait long and will find out for sure in Jan 2019. If the 3700X or above hits 5GHz, I'll be all over it.
I'm semi-confident that my X470 Aorus Gaming 7 will be able to take a 3000 series Ryzen - he says, crossing his fingers.....
I'm semi-confident that my X470 Aorus Gaming 7 will be able to take a 3000 series Ryzen - he says, crossing his fingers.....
Intel certainly wouldn't release 16 core CPU unless absolutely forced.
Just like how they kept milking us with four cores, despite of single core performance increase having "tapered".
(and are now disabling HT in anything buth crazily priced models)
Again if AMD has found solutions to chiplet design's challenges for desktop performance, they can only win by using it to make sure Intel can't say "We're only two cores behind".
12 cores in lower high end would also put major pressure on Intel's Ice Lake plans, possibly forcing Intel to redesign it with higher core count.
Making it harder to produce... On node Intel has been having problems to get working for making anything.
And for longer term AMD needs to aim for becoming more equal size company.
Meaning grabbing market share with all possible ways, instead of using half measures.
(12 and 16 core CPUs would surely make Ryzen enticing also for Apple)
should do a zen2 no problem depends what chip you want,if amd do bring out high cpu's "over 8 core" your board might support 12c/24 threads but if the do bring out a monster 16c/32 desktop part that clocks well im on it new chipset or not lol
seen a couple of interviews with some of amd's corporate customers and they were talking long term they were more focused on zen 3 and 4 said it was only going to get better and better based on the foundations in place
think the chiplet design is a stroke of genuis although its been talked about for a long time making intel monolithic designs look very expensive to produce compared to the higher yeild of the amd chiplet design, gives them more Flexibility any with defects can be banged in the consoles so negates the expensive of the new 7nm node to some degree .....if it wasnt for amd the past 18months well we prob be all still rocking a quad core ....hats off to amd ....hopefully 2019 will be a good year to upgrade!