AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[RavenXXX2]

Jim ******** all over Zen 2, he says they are crap silicon, gaming performance will still be way behind the 9900k.

 

[alec]

In fact Ryzen Master marks the best per CCX/CPU and the second best core per CCX.
I'm sure CPU uses same data also internally.

Which CPU runs which thread is decided by OS scheduler. Don't know if Windows uses the best core information.

I am wondering is single-thread type tasks would benefit from running on CCX with 2 cores disabled, where there is less contention for cache.

 

[EsaT]

Which CPU runs which thread is decided by OS scheduler. Don't know if Windows uses the best core information.

Windows scheduler has been updated for Ryzens, so possibly there's some knowledge of that.

 

[Scramz]

Jim ******** all over Zen 2, he says they are crap silicon, gaming performance will still be way behind the 9900k.

He did throw in the caveat that if they clock like he thinks then they will compete.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

Jim ******** all over Zen 2, he says they are crap silicon, gaming performance will still be way behind the 9900k.

With how far off his old "leaks" were I wouldn't hold much faith in what he said.

 

[gavinh87]

Jim ******** all over Zen 2, he says they are crap silicon, gaming performance will still be way behind the 9900k.

Anyone who thinks they will be anywhere close to a 9900k are delusional.
Feel free to quote me on this when reviews get released if I am wrong.

 

[beany_bot]

I was all ready to pre-order ZEN2 but the pictures is far too complicated for that. Intel could still be the champs yet! also we don't know about overclocking, RAM usage.

I await reviews.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

Anyone who thinks they will be anywhere close to a 9900k are delusional.
Feel free to quote me on this when reviews get released if I am wrong.

What makes you think they won't be "anywhere close" when even the Zen+ systems at 'realistic' resolutions aren't THAT far away? By realistic I mean someone paying £500 for a 9900k isn't buying it to game at less than, or probably even 1080p.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

 

[4K8KW10]

Anyone who thinks they will be anywhere close to a 9900k are delusional.
Feel free to quote me on this when reviews get released if I am wrong.

I am quoting you now. Explain the numbers which you see below:

 

[humbug]

2700X vs 9900K stock for stock is only around 15% on average in games, so a 10% bump over Zen+ will have the 3800X close enough to the 9900K.

 

[Simon Belmont]

I would love to upgrade, but the prices of x570 motherboard have put me off. Hell even x470 prices are higher. meh

Anyways everyone needs to wait for proper reviews.

 

[alec]

Windows scheduler has been updated for Ryzens, so possibly there's some knowledge of that.

I read about Windows being aware of CCX, core numbering, NUMA on Threadripper, but not best core

 

[Sargatanas2511]

2700X vs 9900K stock for stock is only around 15% on average in games, so a 10% bump over Zen+ will have the 3800X close enough to the 9900K.

At realistic resolutions that people buy the most expensive cpus for I would say it's a fair amount less than 15%. 1440p seems more like 10% and 4k it's minimal.

 

[4K8KW10]

I would love to upgrade, but the prices of x570 motherboard have put me off. Hell even x470 prices are higher. meh

I like the X570 boards because they are redesigned according to the new rules for the PCIe 4.0 certifications, which is a serious enough innovation and change for me.

 

[Orange Nexus]

2700X vs 9900K stock for stock is only around 15% on average in games, so a 10% bump over Zen+ will have the 3800X close enough to the 9900K.

Probably why they cherry picked this game cos the 2700x is only a few % behind.

http://imgur.com/PNGvuqY

 

[awaybreaktoday]

Plus 14% puts 3800x just above the 8700K @103.39

 

[4K8KW10]

Probably why they cherry picked this game cos the 2700x is only a few % behind.

http://imgur.com/PNGvuqY

So, expect the 3800X to be pulling ahead of everything else with close to ~200 FPS, vs only 171 FPS for an i9-9900K.

 

[Orange Nexus]

So, expect the 3800X to be pulling ahead of everything else with close to ~200 FPS, vs only 171 FPS for a i9-9900K.

Lol. It is best to wait for reviews.


Not from tpu

 

[beany_bot]

Plus 14% puts 3800x just above the 8700K @103.39

GTAV is the worst possible case scenario for Ryzen. It's AMD's worst performing title compared to Intel. So not really very fair to choose that is it?