AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Ross Thomson]

just had a look. seems straight 8 pin CPU only, no dual like x570 boards or 8+4 like x370 . should be plenty for 8 core but guessing those wishing to rock 16 cores at max overclock speed will be looking for extra power to be supplied

also, might not have enough space on bios chip for newer bios's just yet - hopefully leave it till last moment then release it- if they are going to support it

245w for that water cooled overclocked card running r15 is still within the limits of an 8 pin for the cpu.

 

[HeX]

Do let me know how you get on! Hoping to do the same.

Asrock don't seem to have released the bios yet have they? Unless I am missing it.

Not yet, they originally said 'due end of May' but nothing has been released yet. I imagine we'll get them end of June. 5.60 is the version for the Taichi that will support the 3000 CPU's.

 

[pmc25]

Why is that, doesn’t the UK and Germany have a similiar population

I don't understand that thought , Ocuk being casekings sister company for example , surely Ocuk have as much buying power as German e tailors. Not sure how big the market is there compared to here.

German population is significantly larger. German self build PC market is far larger. They have large sales to some other EU markets - something which UK does not have much of. Caseking are a minnow compared with other German PC e-tailers, and their pricing is pretty bad. Also AFAIK most but not all purchase orders are separate at OCUK and CK.

 

[pmc25]

Seriously? I am assuming you have never used online shopping before then, I'll show you how it works.

1.) You go to the website, and put the product in your basket.
2.) You go through the checkout process.
3.) At the part requesting payment you use a credit card, (in my case a Halifax Clarity card that charges no fees for foreign transactions, and uses the inter-bank lending rate for the conversion)
4.) You wait for your parcel to be delivered to you door.

Obviously you need to make sure the retailer you chose from inside the EU ships to the UK, and there are lots and lots that do. A prime example of savings including shipping can be that of OCUK's owners, Caseking, you can often buy from them and pay about €9-12 shipping and the item can be considerably less that even if bought locally, especially if they have offers on.

Also just to make it 100% clear, if I pay €550 for something and the bank rate is £1:€1.12, I would get that product for £491.07, so I don't see what relevance the value has other than making it slightly cheaper or slightly more expensive, after all you'd only be using this method if local retailers are gouging the pricing, right?

So, are we clear now?

Reread the post you made - what I was replying to.

You're typing and not thinking. Or you need to read about how money moves.

No. Re-read the post I was replying to. It was absolutely moronic.

 

[Zeed]

This is a mainstream platform..... Not many genuinely need this ...........

Yup I got no odea what use typical Joe will have off 12 cores. I do vid encoding. But gotta be honest 3900x in my case will play games like trilogy of cinebench, p95 aloads of memtest and Ibt. My fav titles nowadays

 

[orbitalwalsh]

245w for that water cooled overclocked card running r15 is still within the limits of an 8 pin for the cpu.

more about power delivery then sheer amount . though to be honest, most 8+4/8+8 board owners dont have multi rail PSU to take advantage of it

2950x tops out at 327w with PBO - have a feeling pushing 3950x with 4.7/8ghz all cores is going to push past max limits of single 8 pin . will be interesting but wouldn't want to do AVX work loads on it

8 core would be absolute breeze

 

[Journey]

Reread the post you made - what I was replying to.

You stated, and I quote - "100% it'll be more than those figures in £, unless stock was paid for months ago at a much higher exchange rate (to $).

£ is getting smashed now that we're virtually certain to get either a narcissistic clown or some Brexiteer ultra as next PM."

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And you were referencing the post above that which said, - "Why is everyone getting into a flap about prices on some Danish website?

Here's official US pricing and I'm sure they will be closer to what we'll see in british pounds

Ryzen 9 3900X $499
Ryzen 7 3800X $399
Ryzen 7 3700X $329
Ryzen 5 3600X $249
Ryzen 5 3600 $199"

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My response was - "Or you could just order one from an EU vendor, like I just listed.

There is plenty of stock around, allocations are being easily fulfilled and many, many retailers are going to be fighting for your £££'s, prices will not be higher than the $ equivalents."

No. Re-read the post I was replying to. It was absolutely moronic.

"100% it will be more than those figures in British pounds", is that what you are hanging on to as your saving grace here? You are 100% wrong, I can guarantee you that.

See, I don't think you get it, if it is cheaper in €'s then it will be just as cheap in £'s, it makes no difference of you are going $:€ or $:£ if it did I could make vast amounts of money just by changing currencies all day long.

If I buy something that costs $500, and my currency is Euro, then right now I would need to pay that vendor/person, €444.07. If I then wanted to sell that to another person in £'s for the same amount, it would cost them, £397.115, but if we just skipped the middle step and went straight from $:£ then the $500 would cost me £397.115.

I'll take my apology in the form of an emoticon. ta.

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

Using logic on the internet is frowned upon.

 

[Webster]

Using logic on the internet is frowned upon.

 

[Journey]

Using logic on the internet is frowned upon.

Man I miss the internet from back in the early 90's when logic was sought after, and often welcomed.

 

[Webster]

Man I miss the internet from back in the early 90's when logic was sought after, and often welcomed.

I miss this too, and not having to view adverts constantly!

 

[awaybreaktoday]

When does overclockers uk x570 motherboard prices go live?

 

[Zeed]

When does overclockers uk x570 motherboard prices go live?

I assume 1st July like cpus so can preorder Board + CPU + Memory + whatever person wants to build 3000 system on 7th.

 

[Simon Belmont]

I assume 1st July like cpus so can preorder Board + CPU + Memory + whatever person wants to build 3000 system on 7th.

Yes, usually a week or two before the CPU is released

 

[roysters]

Or next Friday (most people's payday!)

 

[4K8KW10]

Yup I got no odea what use typical Joe will have off 12 cores. I do vid encoding. But gotta be honest 3900x in my case will play games like trilogy of cinebench, p95 aloads of memtest and Ibt. My fav titles nowadays

Assassins Creed: Origins is so CPU intensive, that it utilises 8 cores pretty much at 80-90%.

 

[Zeed]

Assassins Creed: Origins is so CPU intensive, that it utilises 8 cores pretty much at 80-90%.

thats Shittysoft game they run crap. Bet on 16 core load is still 90% And cpu in that vid runs at slow 4200 on top

 

[Captain]

Or next Friday (most people's payday!)

Nah that's the 28th, it'll be Monday the 1st for pre-order, then probably orders shipping Monday the 8th.

 

[VincentHanna]

Assassins Creed: Origins is so CPU intensive, that it utilises 8 cores pretty much at 80-90%.

My point was there would be proof you need more than 8 cores. That doesn't disprove that for gaming a super fast 8 core is probably your best bet.

And the difference between 6 and 8 cores there is minuscule.

 

[Zeed]

My point was there would be proof you need more than 8 cores. That doesn't disprove that for gaming a super fast 8 core is probably your best bet.

And the difference between 6 and 8 cores there is minuscule.

Yup and on top of that its 2700x with SMT TURNED OFF differences are singe digit numbers...
Lets see that test on 3800x with 4600 on cores.