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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***
- Thread starter Jamin280672
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Ok so you post something with a r9 380. Did you even read my post and read what class of graphics card I mentioned?
Ive had an gtx 1080 until recently running 1080 and now a Radeon 7 running 4k. Don't get any stuttering.
Have you read the comments in that video? GTAV runs great for me on my 4790k
No he probably did not read any of the comments due to him just doing a quick google search for something the casts a 4770k in a bad light. Seems to be a problem with having the OS with swap file on the same drive as the game.
For those moaning about the price of these chips some history for you. Back in 1993 when Doom was released I had to upgrade from a intel DX 33 to a DX2 66 to run it and that cost me a shade over £300 for the cpu so really these prices are not that bad. The X570 costs I am finding a bit harder to swallow.
Soldato
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You're not the only one. This is going to bite AMD hard if they aren't careful.
Get an X470 for the ryzen 3***, unless you need PCIE gen4 then there isn't much you need X570 for. A good X470 board(with compatible bios) will run 12 core CPU's fine, I'd only get a good X570 for the 12 and 16 core CPU's if I was OC'ing hard.
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I'm out, I'm not paying double plus what I'd pay for a very good B450 board. For someone who just wants a good gaming experience, the value is not there with a X570 board.
That's the point though, if you want to future proof in some ways you're better off shelling out on a good x570 board now ready for the refresh and next gen gpus, nvme etc. as well as selling on your 3700x/3800x for the 12+ core later down the line in a few years.
I am in 2 minds.
1. Get a 3900x and a good £250-300 X570
2. Get a 3700X and a Asrock Taichi X470 which is a lot less now but would have to upgrade sooner.
Timing sucks for this release as was going to book my flight and hotels for 2 weeks in Thailand in November as its the right time period to get best flight deals next month.
taken from a tech power up test from last year on pcie-3
so if thats a £1k gpu that can only just saturate x8, if people are upset at paying a bit more for a motherboard for future proofing but yet arnt upset at dropping £1k or more for a gpu in a year or so ?????
these random rants about the motherboard prices are getting more odd each day.
so if thats a £1k gpu that can only just saturate x8, if people are upset at paying a bit more for a motherboard for future proofing but yet arnt upset at dropping £1k or more for a gpu in a year or so ?????
these random rants about the motherboard prices are getting more odd each day.
But thats just it I would not drop £1000+ on a gpu. I got the Radeon 7 due to Nvidias stupid pricing.
If they sold a good X570 board with just 1gb intel lan. Dont need wifi. It doesnt have to have fancy DACs etc as I let my £3000 Anthem MRX 720 AMP DACs handle that. RGB I can live without. So all I need is good power delivery a couple of gen 4 NVMe slots and a good bios. Should not be charging more that £250
Agreed. The issue is perception. People don't seem to value motherboards. They are also used to cheaper, lower quality AMD boards. This time they're high quality and cutting edge hence higher priced. Of course you don't have to buy a new motherboard to upgrade the CPU as with Intel. I think a lot of the complaints stem from wanting the latest AMD gear but not wanting to pay the price for class leading performance. This is a new reality for a lot of AMD users.
give it a month or two and see what gets released. thing is if you're using it as a tool for a job that makes you money then yeah its a extra cost but its one you'd swallow because its you're livelihood. if its you're hobby, such is life and such is new tech also an early adopter tax. and yeah i agree i dont want wifi or rbg but all the cool kids do and thats what the boards will ship with unless they start doing server/workstation boards as well for am4.
I'd be quite happy with a "all the tweaks, none of the fluff" options board too. If one emerges with a good bios, I don't care who it's from... they get my business and I'll be fairly loud about lauding them for their design choices too.
EVGA dark X570 would be perfect.
Same boat - 10GB lan is nice but... can be added later.
Sound - I don't need.
RGB - can go die in a fire.
VRM's and good control/bios - YES, MUCHLY!
EVGA dark X570 would be perfect.
Same boat - 10GB lan is nice but... can be added later.
Sound - I don't need.
RGB - can go die in a fire.
VRM's and good control/bios - YES, MUCHLY!
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In todays games, yes you're right. However, I'm sure in 4 years time, those with a 12 core will see a big difference. I'm sure that 8 cores wont remain the sweet spot forever.
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We should just go back to like I dunno, 1996? Ah those were good days, I got my hands on an Asus P55T2P4 Intel 430HX chipset motherboard, at only £120 (~£230 today). It had, 4x 72-pin SIMM slots, and even had an on-board IDE controller!
Oh yeah, it didn't have built in LAN, built in 7.1 (didn't exist) or even stereo sound card, no Wi-Fi (didn't exist), no Bluetooth (didn't exist), you had to by the 512K cache module separately and it had no flashing lights or plastic covering to make it look pretty.
STOP WHINGING! Seriously.
Oh yeah, it didn't have built in LAN, built in 7.1 (didn't exist) or even stereo sound card, no Wi-Fi (didn't exist), no Bluetooth (didn't exist), you had to by the 512K cache module separately and it had no flashing lights or plastic covering to make it look pretty.
STOP WHINGING! Seriously.