AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Thekwango]

Having to wait until Thursday whilst everyone on here is having fun would be too much!!

get yourself suspended from here for a few days and don't login to view the fun.....you'll be golden

 

[mcast]

Let's play an educated guess game....

3900X @ 4.8Ghz (prob highest for average person) will be 5% under the performance of a 9900K single core performance in most games and much better multicore. I will also guess the 3900X is the best ryzen2 in games.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Let's play an educated guess game....

3900X @ 4.8Ghz (prob highest for average person) will be 5% under the performance of a 9900K single core performance in most games and much better multicore. I will also guess the 3900X is the best ryzen2 in games.

It depends on the binning - there are 12 cores in a similar TDP to the Ryzen 7 3700X and Ryzen 7 3800X. I would expect the latter to be the best unless the Ryzen 9 is the best silicon of the bunch,ie,needs lower voltages(and produces less heat per core). OTH,if the Ryzen 7 3700X can overclock almost the same level as the Ryzen 7 3800X and Ryzen 9 3900X,things will become very interesting.

 

[Zeed]

Let's play an educated guess game....

3900X @ 4.8Ghz (prob highest for average person) will be 5% under the performance of a 9900K single core performance in most games and much better multicore. I will also guess the 3900X is the best ryzen2 in games.

My Educated Game guess is that 3900x wont make it to 4.8 more like 4.5 on epic cooling

 

[Zeed]

It depends on the binning - there are 12 cores in a similar TDP to the Ryzen 7 3700X and Ryzen 7 3800X. I would expect the latter to be the best unless the Ryzen 9 is the best silicon of the bunch,ie,needs lower voltages(and produces less heat per core). OTH,if the Ryzen 7 3700X can overclock almost the same level as the Ryzen 7 3800X and Ryzen 9 3900X,things will become very interesting.

I be well happy to move back to liquid metal with 3900x if i remember I lost 3c from moving to Aquanaut from liquid metal. I still think 3900x due to basically 2x6 design will be better on heat transfer than 1x8. 3 contact spots with IHS > 2 thats what I think. Soc an put MOAR VOLTS in it

 

[Martini1991]

Let's play an educated guess game....

3900X @ 4.8Ghz (prob highest for average person) will be 5% under the performance of a 9900K single core performance in most games and much better multicore. I will also guess the 3900X is the best ryzen2 in games.

I'd be surprised if a 3900X can clock the high on average.
But I'd be happy if it did.

 

[razorpakk]

Let's play an educated guess game....

3900X @ 4.8Ghz (prob highest for average person) will be 5% under the performance of a 9900K single core performance in most games and much better multicore. I will also guess the 3900X is the best ryzen2 in games.

Educated guess is not expecting the 3900X to go anywhere past 4.6, as we've never seen it there (nor ever seen any other Ryzen past their advertised speed in all the leaks we had).

 

[beany_bot]

My Educated Game guess is that 3900x wont make it to 4.8 more like 4.5 on epic cooling

It's 4.6Ghz stock for gods sake.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I be well happy to move back to liquid metal with 3900x if i remember I lost 3c from moving to Aquanaut from liquid metal. I still think 3900x due to basically 2x6 design will be better on heat transfer than 1x8. 3 contact spots with IHS > 2 thats what I think. Soc an put MOAR VOLTS in it

There is also the latency question - so if you move over 6C/12T in a game,you will need to move to the second chiplet. I think this is why AMD was emphasising Ryzen 7 3800X gaming performance. OTH,you do have a point about the IHS thermal profile - it might explain why the Ryzen 9 3900X has the highest max core boost of the launch SKUs.

 

[8 Pack]

You mentioned earlier that you had a beta bios for the CH7 -any chance of sharing it?

No. Internal testing only.

 

[8 Pack]

There is also the latency question - so if you move over 6C/12T in a game,you will need to move to the second chiplet. I think this is why AMD was emphasising Ryzen 7 3800X gaming performance. OTH,you do have a point about the IHS thermal profile - it might explain why the Ryzen 9 3900X has the highest max core boost of the launch SKUs.

No they are binning cores explains everything.......

 

[alec]

Zen 2 has at lest 10% IPC over Coffee, so at 4.8 it will beat it hands down.
4.8 single core should be feasible. 4.3 all core, 4.6 single core is its stock boost

 

[Deleted member 209350]

I plan to overclock the 3600 which should keep me going for a while and then after a few years perhaps to prolong the lifetime of the mobo and computer replace for a 4th gen 16 core which hopefully will be cheaper and faster. If I do that then I will not expect to overclock the 16 core on a B450 and running at stock should be more than powerful enough anyway.

this article https://www.bit-tech.net/news/tech/cpus/amd-details-ryzen-3000-series-precision-boost-overdrive/1/

now says that the 3rd gen PBO will work on any mobo that supports 3rd gen ryzen - and so hopefully I can run a 4950X at stock on a MSI b450 gaming carbon pro

Well that would be insane if it pans out that way. Guess we dont need to wait too long to find out anyway, the 7th cant come soon enough!

 

[Ross Thomson]

Yeah its mainly the gaming side, it did make an appreciable difference on Ryzen and Ryzen+

Yes made a difference there. Will be getting faster ram when I upgrade to the 16 core 3950x

 

[beany_bot]

No they are binning cores explains everything.......

Which is the better CPU for gaming (overclocked) 3800x or 3900x. It's all we want to know! give us a clue,.

 

[skipper847]

3 days, 3 days to go

 

[beany_bot]

I cant wait. I have a particularly invasive medical procedure on Sunday morning I am not looking forward to. Alas knowing I can afterwards go home and watch proper reviews and buy Zen 2 genuinely gives me something to look forward to. Timing is ideal for me.

 

[Ross Thomson]

3 days, 3 days to go

Longer for those that want the 16 core

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Spoken like someone who hasn't played Cities: Skylines.

man.. the early days when mods and packages were needed for EVERYTHING to make traffic work etc . always hit 10gb at the START of the game with mods enabled and built nothing!

haha

Steam workshop is prob the cause of 16gb being mainstream and then as mentioned, chrome - nothing like streaming to only yourself and watching others stream via chrome hehe

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

There is also the latency question - so if you move over 6C/12T in a game,you will need to move to the second chiplet. I think this is why AMD was emphasising Ryzen 7 3800X gaming performance. OTH,you do have a point about the IHS thermal profile - it might explain why the Ryzen 9 3900X has the highest max core boost of the launch SKUs.

All communication goes through the IO die, whether that is across chiplets or simply across CCXs; there'd be no difference between 6/8/12 cores in terms of latency, with latency being up 2-3ns as a result.