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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

EsaT said:
Just like 640kB?
While smaller budget games will be heavily designed with old console limitations in mind, you can bet your head that both Microsoft and Sony want AAA games to show big difference to old consoles fast after release.

Also hasn't Sony been advertising about one of the goals of PS5 being overall shortening of loading times?
That means game doing some pre-loading of next level etc assets into memory already during previous level.
Well, I guess game developers can just disable that code in compiler for PC "master race" version...
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A bit silly first comment - lots of older systems of that era had very little RAM,especially all the computers most normal people could afford!! :p

Sorry, but again the consoles are out next year with the PS5 in November 2020 with the XBox Two around that same period too. So that is until the end of 2020,so around 15 to 18 months. So where is all this "With just minimal programs at background 16GB will be fine for year or so" ??

So then all of a sudden all AAA games will use 32GB on January 1st 2021?? So all the 100s of millions of people using PCs with 8GB to 16GB of RAM,and all the current gen consoles are suddenly going to be thrown in the bin??

Most of the console install base won't be the PS5 and XBox Two next year or even one year after launch,it will be the current generation. So for a period after that games will be made with previous generation consoles as the main selling platform and the new consoles having "enhanced" versions.

This is exactly the same as when the PS4 PRO and XBox One X came out,the launch titles were enhanced versions of the previous models for the first year to two years.

So realistically at least two minimum,perhaps three years I would say,outside the occasional edge case should be fine with 16GB.

FFS,look at core scaling in games.

It took 5+ years of 8 core CPUs in the X86 consoles to start getting a lot of games to use more than 4 cores and 4 threads,which was also helped by Ryzen being released and Coffee Lake. Crysis 3 was one of the few titles to really push multi-threading in 2013,and it took years for many games to catch up in this regard.

Many here had 16GB of RAM since 2011 to 2012,and 8 to 12 thread CPUs. How long did it take for 16GB to be needed?

A lot of people on this forum have hugely overspecified rigs for gaming, even compared to people doing actual work with their computers.

It also makes PC gaming look artificially more expensive than it needs to be.

DragonQ said:
Spoken like someone who hasn't played Cities: Skylines. ;)
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Fallout 4 with an ENB and mods can cause a GTX1080 to get hammered at 1080p?? That is clearly not the case with most games. ROTTR also can have VRAM problems at 1080p and qHD in certain areas,which again is an edge case!
 
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Sorry for being lazy, but when are the reviews on the loose? I've read 7/7, but's that's a freaking sunday. Never seen an NDA end on a sunday before.
 
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IbaneZ said:
Sorry for being lazy, but when are the reviews on the loose? I've read 7/7, but's a freaking sunday. Never seen an NDA end on a sunday before.
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Yep, they should be going live on Sunday. They've done it because of the whole 7nm thing, I imagine most reviewers are mildly annoyed by the whole thing.
 
Did anybody from OCUK confirm that earliest deliveries will be on Tuesday? I recall they said they will be closed on Sunday so driving to the store is pointless if one lives nearby.
 
People who are ordering ryzen 3000 and already have a decent cpu cooler, what will you do with the additional stock cooler? Are they easy to re-sell? Can you use them at your window to battle the heatwave? I’m a bit frustrated having to get something I don’t really need
 
SiDeards73 said:
Load of rubbish, i have an Xbox One X and the Gamepass / Live upgrade on that for another year, honestly moving it to PC and keeping it separate is sad, they should have combined Xbox and PC gamepass as one, rather than 2 separate entities. Id have been excited for the bundle if that 3 month pass let me play on both platforms for 3 months lol
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Simpe so i can have PS5 and Game pass :)
 
CrakeJ said:
You mentioned earlier that you had a beta bios for the CH7 -any chance of sharing it?
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It's same beta bios that been out for quite long time. Still nothing or Asus on new beta. If it goes good Should have one on Friday thats when we get bone thrown usually.
 
kittenmittenz said:
People who are ordering ryzen 3000 and already have a decent cpu cooler, what will you do with the additional stock cooler? Are they easy to re-sell? Can you use them at your window to battle the heatwave? I’m a bit frustrated having to get something I don’t really need
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They seem to sell on eBay often enough. Was looking at one recently as a friend got a second-hand CPU from CEX without a cooler.
The Stealth only goes for around £7 including postage so not much tbh.
Work keeping as a spare if you get a Ryzen 5 3600 as after postage and packing its like £2. The others go from £15-35 depending on RGB and if its a Wraith Prism.
 
kittenmittenz said:
People who are ordering ryzen 3000 and already have a decent cpu cooler, what will you do with the additional stock cooler? Are they easy to re-sell? Can you use them at your window to battle the heatwave? I’m a bit frustrated having to get something I don’t really need
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Keep the unused stock cooler and box - if you upgrade to a new CPU it will increase the resale price.
 
Zeed said:
It's same beta bios that been out for quite long time. Still nothing or Asus on new beta. If it goes good Should have one on Friday thats when we get bone thrown usually.
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Doh....was really hopeful then.....

I love the way Asus make it look like it's not a beta on their site. I'm guessing we have to wait for Friday as well. They don't let us test like when Elmor was around.
 
Nerusy said:
Did anybody from OCUK confirm that earliest deliveries will be on Tuesday? I recall they said they will be closed on Sunday so driving to the store is pointless if one lives nearby.
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I think so, which puts them at a disadvantage compared to the rainforest. I'll probably buy from there if prices are the same because (a) faster delivery, (b) I have a £15 voucher I need to use by the end of July. :D

Even if mine is delivered to my work on Monday, I likely won't get it until Tuesday, which means I can't actually play with it until Wednesday. Having to wait until Thursday whilst everyone on here is having fun would be too much!!

kittenmittenz said:
People who are ordering ryzen 3000 and already have a decent cpu cooler, what will you do with the additional stock cooler? Are they easy to re-sell? Can you use them at your window to battle the heatwave? I’m a bit frustrated having to get something I don’t really need
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I keep them as spares mostly. I was thinking of replacing the stock cooler in my server (R7 1700) but I think the cooler that comes with the R7 3700X will be the same anyway, so pointless.
 
emodan said:
They seem to sell on eBay often enough. Was looking at one recently as a friend got a second-hand CPU from CEX without a cooler.
The Stealth only goes for around £7 including postage so not much tbh.
Work keeping as a spare if you get a Ryzen 5 3600 as after postage and packing its like £2. The others go from £15-35 depending on RGB and if its a Wraith Prism.
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Selling it with 2700x
 
CrakeJ said:
Doh....was really hopeful then.....

I love the way Asus make it look like it's not a beta on their site. I'm guessing we have to wait for Friday as well. They don't let us test like when Elmor was around.
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Yup with Elmor Asus Support went out of the window.... Looks like I wont be buying no Asus motherboards anymore. And moving to ASRock bios support and VRM's ware my selling points. ASRock got VRM's support is by looks of it better x370 Tachi got the new bios version Yestarday or something.
 
chroniclard said:
Spare cooler goes in the loft in case I ever need it. (Alongside the multiple boxes of computer related parts I have never needed.....:p)
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Glad I'm not the only one with random spare pc bits. I do try to retire some of them like stuff which is completely useless and parts for PC's I built for people I no longer speak to.
 
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