AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[StriderX]

meh b die/ lower Cas latency DDR4. Why not save the money for higher frequency DDR5 in 2020/2021? It's not so far away. Or, maybe I need to read more reviews lol.

Because DDR5 will be gutter trash in comparison, the latency will be poverty tier. Frequency means basically nothing above a certain point in games, it's more useful for professional/enterprise functions.

 

[an0nym0us]

I wonder if the R5 2600 will fall further. If it gets to £100 over the next month or so it'd probably be the best bang-for-buck CPU ever (if it isn't already).

That would definitely be a bargain.

 

[koeiwong]

death to ITX at flagship prices is hope going forward

All mini itx boards come with wifi which will cost more

I think mini-dtx will fit into my case but it won't be cheap

 

[s6545]

Because DDR5 will be gutter trash in comparison

In what way will it be worse in terms of performance?

I genuinely don't know.

 

[beany_bot]

meh b die/ lower Cas latency DDR4. Why not save the money for higher frequency DDR5 in 2020/2021? It's not so far away. Or, maybe I need to read more reviews lol.

DDR5 base frequency is apparently 4800MHz...

You do realise you wont be able to just plug DDR5 into your AM4 motherboard lol. It doesnt work that way.

 

[DragonQ]

16GB will be fine for years. Even 16GB wasn't really required for years either even though enthusiasts were plonking in such amounts for yonks.

Spoken like someone who hasn't played Cities: Skylines.

 

[StriderX]

Spoken like someone who hasn't played Cities: Skylines.

One game out of tens of thousands, it's like people moaning about CS:GO and the 'need' to go 10000000000000000000000000000 FPS.

 

[s6545]

You do realise you wont be able to just plug DDR5 into your AM4 motherboard lol. It doesnt work that way.

Yes, I do. But a mobo upgrade will probably be worth it by then anyway.

Also, I read that DDR4 is mechanically the same as DDR5 so who knows what will happen. Maybe AM4+ at some point.

 

[Hagar]

Yes, I do. But a mobo upgrade will probably be worth it by then anyway.

Also, I read that ddr4 is mechanically the same as DDR5 so who knows what will happen. Maybe AM4+ at some point.

The first iterations of any DDR generation are usually pretty meh (and expensive) it takes a while to bed in and also get the best from motherboards.

 

[s6545]

Also, it seems logical that higher frequencies will continue to benefit future games, as DDR4 has benefited recently released games.

Theres also this about DDR5 " the overall performance has been improved when using the same clock speeds. With 3200 MT/s DDR5 memory offering around 36% more real-world bandwidth than DDR4 modules at the same rate"

https://mightygadget.co.uk/ddr5-production-start-2019-offering-1-36x-performance-speeds/

 

[DragonQ]

One game out of tens of thousands, it's like people moaning about CS:GO and the 'need' to go 10000000000000000000000000000 FPS.

Of course, I am only joshing. I do more with my PC than game so 32 GiB is interesting to me. For pure gamers and just generally most users, 16 GiB is plenty for now.

 

[Vish Petrol]

Ok thank you i guess i need to read up on memory im gonna need some within the month as im moving over to Amd if the hype is real lol

The ballistix are known to overclock well. If youre on a budget get the ballistix. You could even just get 16gb of the crucial. Depends on what you are doing.
If the money is taken away from another component like a graphics card, then put the money towards the GPU.

 

[Curlyriff]

Yes, I do. But a mobo upgrade will probably be worth it by then anyway.

Also, I read that DDR4 is mechanically the same as DDR5 so who knows what will happen. Maybe AM4+ at some point.

You will need CPU, Mobo & RAM for DDR5 because it will need a new CPU pin layout so it isn't just a new Mobo to take that later on.

 

[dogma77]

You do realise you wont be able to just plug DDR5 into your AM4 motherboard lol. It doesnt work that way.

stop destroying is dream

 

[s6545]

We need to know if AM4+ will happen really. If it does, some CPU's could be backwards compatible with AM4.

EDIT - I'd guess not though if the next socket is called AM5.

 

[Ðudeth]

Spoken like someone who hasn't played Cities: Skylines.

Made me LOL, also i assume this person has never used Chrome..... absolute RAM monster of a browser

 

[Zeed]

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/a...h-radeon-rx-5700-andor-ryzen-3000-series.html

Game pass PC with Zen2 I see.

 

[beany_bot]

Made me LOL, also i assume this person has never used Chrome..... absolute RAM monster of a browser

Oh I use it, I just don't have stupid amounts of tabs open. No need. Close what you aren't using. A bit like turning the lights off when you leave a room lol.

 

[opethdisciple]

Noticed yesterday more PBO settings with latest BIOS for my x370 board.

 

[i_am_jon]

Still tempted by the Ballistix myself, all comes down to user-case / cost. Cost doubles to go from micron-e 3200C16 to samsung-b 3600C16. Not really known how well the cheaper stuff will clock or the effect on performance with Ryzen 3.

If you only need 16GB the cost difference isn't too much to swallow but at 32GB it's an extra £150+. Don't need more than 16GB for gaming but for some dev work and running virtual machines etc 32GB is worth while. Plus 16GB doesn't feel like much of an upgrade when have been on it for 7 years.

Found myself a compromise: G.SKILL TridentZ 3600C17 8GBx2: 2 sets ordered for ~ £225. Looks like they are B-die so with a bit of tinkering hopefully will do 3600 C16. Got to admit I like the styling on the G.Skills and at 44mm they should just about fit under my cooler.

Edit: ordered early as not much stock and may be a rush on 3600 kits next week.