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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Power Delivery Affecting Performance At 7nm:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/9njp5w/power_delivery_affecting_performance_at_7nm/

This is why I think 7NM Ryzen won't clock as high as people think,and AMD will concentrate on other areas first.
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This is why IPC is crucial; a 10% IPC bump across the board would be equivalent to a jump from 4.5 to 5.0 GHz. In the last great competitive age of CPUs, chasing GHz lost Intel the war. They are doing the same now and it can only carry them so far. Whether AMD have enough time to catch up before Intel pull their finger out is another question.
 
DragonQ said:
This is why IPC is crucial; a 10% IPC bump across the board would be equivalent to a jump from 4.5 to 5.0 GHz. In the last great competitive age of CPUs, chasing GHz lost Intel the war. They are doing the same now and it can only carry them so far. Whether AMD have enough time to catch up before Intel pull their finger out is another question.
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Yep,and since I have a SFF system,pushing clockspeeds is more of an issue - much better IMHO if they can improve other aspects of the CPU first. Also,from what I gather Intel 10NM won't apparently won't be able to clock as high as the current 14NM process node used,so Intel might just have to go the same way as AMD. This happened going from Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge IIRC.
 
DragonQ said:
This is why IPC is crucial; a 10% IPC bump across the board would be equivalent to a jump from 4.5 to 5.0 GHz. In the last great competitive age of CPUs, chasing GHz lost Intel the war. They are doing the same now and it can only carry them so far. Whether AMD have enough time to catch up before Intel pull their finger out is another question.
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Not IPC but quantity of cores. The more the merrier we will be.
Intel is at a principal disadvantage because they haven't gotten rid off the iGPU.
 
I'm just thinking if it's gonna be worth to get updated motherboard with new ryzen. CPU is 100% upgrade for me, just thinking about other features available next year.
 
haszek said:
I'm just thinking if it's gonna be worth to get updated motherboard with new ryzen. CPU is 100% upgrade for me, just thinking about other features available next year.
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Of course it is worth it, if you can afford to wait several months, up to half a year :(
 
Panos said:
If you read gibbos posts, 9900k retail will be delivered around Xmas....... Not much longer to wait.

Also new X570 will come with pcie 4.
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Any rumours how far away PCIe 4.0 motherboards are? Really not sure if I should hold off for X399 + PCIe 4.0. If it's a few months away is worth the wait, if it's 12 months away I'll just buy now.
 
Troezar said:
Any rumours how far away PCIe 4.0 motherboards are? Really not sure if I should hold off for X399 + PCIe 4.0. If it's a few months away is worth the wait, if it's 12 months away I'll just buy now.
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There will not be any boards until the next gen of CPU's are out that support them, so you are looking at EPYC first Q1' 19, then consumer Zen2 CPU's to follow sometime in the first half of 2019, possibly as late as July. I have two pretty large projects that are clamouring for more PCI-E bandwidth so it'll be nice when it finally arrives. :)
 
Journey said:
There will not be any boards until the next gen of CPU's are out that support them, so you are looking at EPYC first Q1' 19, then consumer Zen2 CPU's to follow sometime in the first half of 2019, possibly as late as July. I have two pretty large projects that are clamouring for more PCI-E bandwidth so it'll be nice when it finally arrives. :)
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Ok thanks. Good chance TR won't get them until later 2019 then. I may just look out for a good deal this Black Friday then.
 
Ive quelled my desire to buy a 2700X rig and Vega 64 in place of my 1700 1070 rig and instead ive been looking at just buying an Xbox one X, i already have an Xbox One, the kids can have that, im going to buy the One X and just game on that til AMD release Zen2 and 7nm Consumer GPU's and then do a full new build at that point.

Kinda done with PC gaming at the moment, got bored of FF14 so been playing POE and thats on console as well, ontop of that Grim Dawn is releasing on Xbone in the new year so i can see me spending 6+ months on that to be honest :)
 
SiDeards73 said:
Ive quelled my desire to buy a 2700X rig and Vega 64 in place of my 1700 1070 rig and instead ive been looking at just buying an Xbox one X, i already have an Xbox One, the kids can have that, im going to buy the One X and just game on that til AMD release Zen2 and 7nm Consumer GPU's and then do a full new build at that point.

Kinda done with PC gaming at the moment, got bored of FF14 so been playing POE and thats on console as well, ontop of that Grim Dawn is releasing on Xbone in the new year so i can see me spending 6+ months on that to be honest :)
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I have to say the X with Freesync monitor or TV is good experience.
 
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