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I'm just about to repurpose my P180 original as I'm going custom loop. It will live on as a server case.

I think it was an athlon 64 3200 or could have been the X2 3800 around 2005 so fitting my new case is getting AMD again.

The P180 was such a revolutionary case back in the day, ahead of its time. Many cases have just taken a lot of what they did well.

Antec are no where nowdays unfortunately. :(
 
At best it will be blow for blow. It's not going to beat the 9900K.

Hmmm... i dunno. I did napkin math with the 3-4% uplift anandtech were on about and it has the 3700X/3900X trading blows. 3800X having all the tdp headroom is odd... it makes me wonder what it MIGHT do with the 70W headroom if you give it the cooling. My cooling isn't... SUPER amazing but... it's pretty damn good by most standards (720mm and awesome airflow) so there MIGHT be something there for me :)
 
Which voltage would potentially aid in stabilizing high FCLK frequency?
Matisse introduced a new voltage adjusment, called cLDO_VDDG. VDDG is the fabric voltage.
At default it is 0.950V however, some motherboards might increase above the default level even at stock settings.

cLDO means the voltage uses a drop-out (LDO = low drop-out) regulator.
Most cLDO voltages are regulated from the two main power rails of the CPU. In case of cLDO_VDDG and cLDO_VDDP, they are regulated from the VDDCR_SoC plane.
Because of this, there are couple rules. For example, if you set the VDDG to 1.100V, while your actual SoC voltage under load is 1.05V the VDDG will stay roughly at 1.01V max.
Likewise if you have VDDG set to 1.100V and start increasing the SoC voltage, your VDDG will raise as well. I don't have the exact figure, but you can assume that the minimum drop-out voltage (Vin-Vout) is around 40mV.
Meaning you ACTUAL SoC voltage has to be at least by this much higher, than the requested VDDG for it to take effect as it is requested.

Adjusting the SoC voltage alone, unlike on previous gen. parts doesn't do much if anything at all.
The default value is fixed 1.100V and AMD recommends keeping it at that level. Increasing the VDDG helps with the fabric overclocking in certain scenarios, but not always.
1800MHz FCLK should be doable at the default 0.9500V value and for pushing the limits it might be beneficial to increase it to =< 1.05V (1.100 - 1.125V SoC, depending on the load-line).
 
Which voltage would potentially aid in stabilizing high FCLK frequency?
Matisse introduced a new voltage adjusment, called cLDO_VDDG. VDDG is the fabric voltage.
At default it is 0.950V however, some motherboards might increase above the default level even at stock settings.

cLDO means the voltage uses a drop-out (LDO = low drop-out) regulator.
Most cLDO voltages are regulated from the two main power rails of the CPU. In case of cLDO_VDDG and cLDO_VDDP, they are regulated from the VDDCR_SoC plane.
Because of this, there are couple rules. For example, if you set the VDDG to 1.100V, while your actual SoC voltage under load is 1.05V the VDDG will stay roughly at 1.01V max.
Likewise if you have VDDG set to 1.100V and start increasing the SoC voltage, your VDDG will raise as well. I don't have the exact figure, but you can assume that the minimum drop-out voltage (Vin-Vout) is around 40mV.
Meaning you ACTUAL SoC voltage has to be at least by this much higher, than the requested VDDG for it to take effect as it is requested.

Adjusting the SoC voltage alone, unlike on previous gen. parts doesn't do much if anything at all.
The default value is fixed 1.100V and AMD recommends keeping it at that level. Increasing the VDDG helps with the fabric overclocking in certain scenarios, but not always.
1800MHz FCLK should be doable at the default 0.9500V value and for pushing the limits it might be beneficial to increase it to =< 1.05V (1.100 - 1.125V SoC, depending on the load-line).

Nice.
 
Good news is OCUK confirmed the 3600X will hopefully leave today; bad news DPD are bloody imbeciles and happily sent me a pic of the wrong door to prove they tried to deliver my 5700XT so who knows when i'll see any of it....
 
Good news is OCUK confirmed the 3600X will hopefully leave today; bad news DPD are bloody imbeciles and happily sent me a pic of the wrong door to prove they tried to deliver my 5700XT so who knows when i'll see any of it....

EEK. My DPD driver found it impossible to follow the delivery note I had added by DPD via a phone call.
 
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