AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

Troezar · 15 May 2020 at 16:55

I see rumours Zen 3 might be even better than expected...

NinjaCool · 15 May 2020 at 17:05

AMD's Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs rumored to have higher than 15-17% IPC gains over current Zen 2 models
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-s...roy-Intel-s-Comet-Lake-S-lineup.465643.0.html

Those engineers seems pretty confident that the Ryzen 4000 series will “utterly beat Intel in both performance and power consumption.”

humbug · 15 May 2020 at 17:17

NinjaCool said:
AMD's Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs rumored to have higher than 15-17% IPC gains over current Zen 2 models
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-s...roy-Intel-s-Comet-Lake-S-lineup.465643.0.html

Those engineers seems pretty confident that the Ryzen 4000 series will “utterly beat Intel in both performance and power consumption.”

Meanwhile....

Troezar · 15 May 2020 at 17:31

NinjaCool said:
AMD's Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs rumored to have higher than 15-17% IPC gains over current Zen 2 models
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-s...roy-Intel-s-Comet-Lake-S-lineup.465643.0.html

Those engineers seems pretty confident that the Ryzen 4000 series will “utterly beat Intel in both performance and power consumption.”

Will be interesting to see how Intel 10th gen and Z490 sell. Must resist the urge to buy in early to Zen 3 and concentrate on a GPU upgrade instead.

Perfect_Chaos · 15 May 2020 at 17:36

Troezar said:
Will be interesting to see how Intel 10th gen and Z490 sell. Must resist the urge to buy in early to Zen 3 and concentrate on a GPU upgrade instead.

If Zen 3 is that good i will probably do both anyway with a new Nvidia card

humbug · 15 May 2020 at 17:53

Troezar said:
Will be interesting to see how Intel 10th gen and Z490 sell. Must resist the urge to buy in early to Zen 3 and concentrate on a GPU upgrade instead.

They will sell quite well because its an Intel CPU with a higher number in the name...

FoxEye · 15 May 2020 at 19:10

I wonder if AMD has a real hit on its hands in Zen3, whether they can resist the temptation to put prices up significantly..

Panos · 15 May 2020 at 19:23

Perfect_Chaos said:
If Zen 3 is that good i will probably do both anyway with a new Nvidia card

Why replace the power hungry Intel, with an even more power hungry Nvidia? 400W TDP for heaven sake on base clock model

Joxeon · 15 May 2020 at 20:45

FoxEye said:
I wonder if AMD has a real hit on its hands in Zen3, whether they can resist the temptation to put prices up significantly..

I doubt it since they already added atleast £150 to the cost for non x570 owners.

Gerard · 15 May 2020 at 21:35

Joxeon said:
I doubt it since they already added atleast £150 to the cost for non x570 owners.

That could still change, still a few months away from launch so they have time to do a u-turn on the motherboard support.

~>Dg<~ · 16 May 2020 at 17:18

Gerard said:
That could still change, still a few months away from launch so they have time to do a u-turn on the motherboard support.

cant see it as they will want to do a intel and flog new boards. stop thinking companies love you . then dont they love your money.

really cant wait to see what these chips can do. intel said about a year ago they got nothing for amd until 2021 at least. so hopefully these are the real deal. just praying the new boards dont have the stupid fans on.

Gerard · 16 May 2020 at 17:34

~>Dg<~ said:
stop thinking companies love you . then dont they love your money.

Show me where i said or even implied that. :rolleyes:

Perfect_Chaos · 16 May 2020 at 17:37

Surprised we haven't had any leaks on these yet.

Panos said:
Why replace the power hungry Intel, with an even more power hungry Nvidia? 400W TDP for heaven sake on base clock model

Lost me now

~>Dg<~ · 16 May 2020 at 18:06

Gerard said:
Show me where i said or even implied that.

you said that it could still change. it wont. they want you to buy new boards. yes i did stretch it out.

Gerard · 16 May 2020 at 18:10

~>Dg<~ said:
you said that it could still change. it wont. they want you to buy new boards. yes i did stretch it out.

In the latest gamers nexus video they claim that amd were surprised about the backslash so threes a possibility they might rethink and let motherboard manufacturers support some of the newer cpu's. They already did it before with the 3000 series not officially supporting some boards so it's not like they haven't capitulated before.

BongoHunter · 16 May 2020 at 18:21

If that support arrives but is just limited to boards that meet a certain spec like PCB layers, VRMs, Pcie/m2 slot position and trace length etc. then that could work for everyone

Edit: Well not everyone not quite everyone... !

Gerard · 16 May 2020 at 18:27

BongoHunter said:
If that support arrives but is just limited to boards that meet a certain spec like PCB layers, VRMs, Pcie/m2 slot position and trace length etc. then that could work for everyone

Edit: Well not everyone not quite everyone... !

The likelihood is they won't but there's a possibility they might want to try and save face and give some owners the option, just have to wait and see closer to the launch.

ljt · 16 May 2020 at 18:28

~>Dg<~ said:
cant see it as they will want to do a intel and flog new boards. stop thinking companies love you . then dont they love your money.

Trouble is, AMD won't get my money now because they won't support my existing motherboard. If they had I more than likely would have purchased a new CPU, but now I won't because they won't work on my m'board, so they can't love my money that much..

Panos · 16 May 2020 at 18:53

ljt said:
Trouble is, AMD won't get my money now because they won't support my existing motherboard. If they had I more than likely would have purchased a new CPU, but now I won't because they won't work on my m'board, so they can't love my money that much..

Then no CPU upgrade for you until you die?

Doobedoo · 16 May 2020 at 19:17

Panos said:
Then no CPU upgrade for you until you die?

I call dibs on his setup