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AMD Zen 3 (Ryzen 4000) already in the works

Perfect_Chaos said:
Next 1-2 years will be difficult to choose upgrades. Intel supposedly bringing Golden/Ocean Cove with big perf increases. Hope the 4000 chips are a good upgrade over the 3000 ones.
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Yeah. Unless Intel 7nm leaves AMD in the dust, I want to stick what I got now in our 2nd PC and go for a 5000 series CPU on AM5 to have a nice upgrade path. After keeping my Haswell system for 6+ year the thought of going on a platform that you can upgrade the CPU 3-4 gens after is appealing.
 
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TrM said:
why would amd release any earlier ? Amd want to maximise there sales of all there released CPU’s and not just upgrade for the sake of upgrading. Have such a late launch of ryzen 3000 for 7nm mode etc caused amd to move the launch of future products
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Even worse, good news and rumors about Zen3 turn me away from buying Zen2 now.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Next 1-2 years will be difficult to choose upgrades. Intel supposedly bringing Golden/Ocean Cove with big perf increases. Hope the 4000 chips are a good upgrade over the 3000 ones.
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Yeah, I was looking at the 3950X or a 16 core TR but seeing as I needed an upgrade earlier in the year I decided to hold out for now. Would like to support AMD given what they've done to the CPU market but for now a 9900K is enough for me - I don't think it's worth upgrading this year now but will see what's available when Ryzen 4000 arrives
 
alec said:
Even worse, good news and rumors about Zen3 turn me away from buying Zen2 now.
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Then you'll never buy anything. If Zen 3, even at 12 months away, is preventing you from buying Zen 2, then Zen 4 is really going to turn you away from Zen 3 - even more improvements, even more performance, even greater efficiency, SMT 4 probably back, new motherboard socket, DDR5, PCIe 5, oh and zero upgrade path from Zen 3.
 
DarrenM343 said:
Yeah, I was looking at the 3950X or a 16 core TR but seeing as I needed an upgrade earlier in the year I decided to hold out for now. Would like to support AMD given what they've done to the CPU market but for now a 9900K is enough for me - I don't think it's worth upgrading this year now but will see what's available when Ryzen 4000 arrives
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There is no 16 core threadripper this time round on the new TR4 platform. If you want 16 core cpu then 3950x is your only option from the news i have seen so far, could be wrong but anyone else confirm this?

Was going to go 16 core threadripper like you but unfortunately it would seem the 3950x is my only option now.
 
AMDPower said:
There is no 16 core threadripper this time round on the new TR4 platform. If you want 16 core cpu then 3950x is your only option from the news i have seen so far, could be wrong but anyone else confirm this?

Was going to go 16 core threadripper like you but unfortunately it would seem the 3950x is my only option now.
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I thought that was the case too. The base 24 core TR is way beyond my requirements I think but will have a look when they're released. I had the 1950X which was great, went back to a spare quad core to upgrade again later then prematurely (before I wanted to) needed a second PC. Plan was originally to wait for the 3950X or new TR but took longer than I hoped to get 3000 series out (especially the 3950).
For me I think 4000 series will be a good upgrade. Great to see loads of options available now and competition.
I was hoping for a 16 core TR with higher clocks than the 3950X :), with of course all the other goodies the TR platform brings.
 
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LePhuronn said:
Then you'll never buy anything. If Zen 3, even at 12 months away, is preventing you from buying Zen 2, then Zen 4 is really going to turn you away from Zen 3 - even more improvements, even more performance, even greater efficiency, SMT 4 probably back, new motherboard socket, DDR5, PCIe 5, oh and zero upgrade path from Zen 3.
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Thing is, I don't REALLY need a new cpu now. If I did, would go for what is current best and not wait for anything.

And the other side is, IPC hasn't REALLY improved since Skylake. My previous upgrade from (4 year old) Sandy Bridge to Skylake brought 15-25% IPC improvement, 5-10% clock improvement and coincided with DDR3 to DDR4. So effect was noticeable. But if I changed from Skylake to Zen2 (or coffee lake) now, would need a magnifying glass to see a difference apart from number of cores. Same 4 year period.

But AMD has promised and delivered steady IPC improvement with Zen, Zen+, Zen2. So I have no doubt Zen 3 will deliver too. And that will finally bring it firmly above Skylake.
 
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Woodsta888 said:
"I might be buying" - lol

At least RBImGuy actually 'owns' a decent CPU....NOW
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lol said the troll. I warn you that if you don't stop the trolling, I will add you to the ignore list.

For your information, I have a 15W Ryzen 5 2500U and it will stay until a better option is found.
 
Martini1991 said:
So far the surface AMD options are very limited, it's good of AMD to have a foot in but I'd have hoped they'd have a leg.
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Of course, but you could argue that Zen2 was the first real jump at intel and surpassing them, they will need to carry on this trend of actually performing better and being cheaper for the next couple of iterations to gain a significant market share advantage.

Its a bit silly to think that after a few months of Zen2 being released that it was going to gain an insane amount of market share and surpass intel, im sure they will eventually but not for a few years at the minimum
 
4K8KW10 said:
lol said the troll. I warn you that if you don't stop the trolling, I will add you to the ignore list.

For your information, I have a 15W Ryzen 5 2500U and it will stay until a better option is found.
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Sorry, but how is it trolling when I'm just picking up your insult to that poster followed with the rolling eyes?

Please, put me on your ignore list if you want. Be my guest.
 
Martini1991 said:
So far the surface AMD options are very limited, it's good of AMD to have a foot in but I'd have hoped they'd have a leg.
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They do have a leg, the Ryzen Surface use semi-custom APUs. That is a big deal.

You can't just take a chassis designed for X chip, slap in Y chipand expect it to perform. The fact Microsoft have commissioned semi-custom Ryzen and designed a chassis around it is very telling. And it's just the beginning
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1494...oft-surface-edition-and-what-semicustom-means
 
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The weird thing is, B550 boards aren't due till what, March 2020? Then a couple months later you have Ryzen 4000 series landing. Presumably with X670 boards?

Not sure why the make us wait so long for mid-range boards.
 
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