if that's the case there is no reason to buy b550 right? Cause you would just buy an X570 board because they will be dirty chip as retailers try to clear stock ahead of the x670 launch
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AMD Zen 3 (Ryzen 4000) already in the works
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if that's the case there is no reason to buy b550 right? Cause you would just buy an X570 board because they will be dirty chip as retailers try to clear stock ahead of the x670 launch
The cheapest B450 is £100 cheaper than the cheapest X570.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/motherboards/amd/am4-x570-ryzen-3rd-gen?sPage=1&sSort=3
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/motherboards/amd/am4-x470-b450-ryzen?sPage=1&sSort=3
The cheapest X470 is still £40 cheaper than the cheapest X570.
So, it makes sense to release cheap B550 boards with PCIe 4 now.
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Early 2020 according to this.
So that could be CES alongside the APUs or December paper launch. Also don't forget that the APUs are a generation behind, so the Ryzen 4000 APUs will actually be Zen 2 and Vega, not Zen 3 (and Navi?)
Ryzen 3000 drifted from the traditional March slot to July, I sincerely doubt Ryzen 4000 will land less than a year later.
Old Zen 2 + Vega APUs will be early 2020.
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AMD cycle has changed quite a bit this year. With the delays of a lot of chips and later release schedule, I highly doubt Zen3 is coming anything sooner than July 2020
The "early 2020" comment was about mobile Ryzen 4000. Which is in fact Zen 2.
Proper desktop Ryzen 4000 is Zen 3, and comes later. Probably Q3.
It will be really interesting what this Zen 3 in Q3 2020 will look like. Will it be more of the same with mid-range $320 8-core CPUs and super expensive 12-core/16-core offerings, or they will give the 12-core lower pricing and lower relative performance tier.
threadripper has already shown what amd will do!
If the 8% ipc uplift and 200mhz extra is true. And all the stuff about intel 14nm 10 series cpu being much of the same as it is now with hyperthreading and a 10core 19.
amd won’t change much! 3900x has sold really well so has the ryzen 7 and ryzen 5 parts all been selling well. Amd come In 2017 and offered more cores (less powerful cores) and now amd have the lead in so many ways.
Amd are a company after all and whilst they are compete W or beating intel there cpu will command the prices they want and I can’t see the prices or sku changing for zen 3
here is the thing though we are talking about 1 part of a use of a cpu! Are you saying that gaming benchmarks sould dictate pricing? Sould we all base our buy decisions on gaming?
Now I’m not saying intel don’t make good CPU’s or that everyone would pick amd. My own pc is based around work and gaming so I have a 3900x and 2080ti graphics. I would say I have a top tier pc and gaming pc. But a intel cpu bs ryzen 3000 cpu any of them don’t give amazing gaming performance. A lot of people make it seem that’s it’s a i7 vs a fx cpu were it was so much faster.
Currently though ryzen 5 vs i5 and the ryzen wins for overall cpu same with i7 and ryzen 7 and ryzen 9 vs 9900k ryzen as a whole cpu is just a better option overall. So why can’t amd charge intel prices or even command there own prices if they wanted to?
You're really getting desperate now. Just give it up already, the small-minded blinkered opinion you have is tiresome and just wrong.
He won't give up believe me. Short of a miracle he has his mind set and will continue banging on and saying how dumb AMD are and telling us what they should be doing. Like as if it was as easy as that.
I don't get why he's not been banned off the CPU and GPU sections. I see plenty of suspensions flying around for those who call out his blatant trolling for what it is, yet he - the instigator - is allowed to continue unfettered. And using the ignore feature is not an option because the forum turns into a disjointed mess of broken statements, so you have to show hidden content anyway just to understand the convo.
Yep. I don't use ignore. Does not work.
Because it isn't optimal and best for them. Intel still holds that premium brand feel in many people and as you can see many consumers try to find the little reason which would push them towards intel processor purchase.
Intel commands the servers market, the OEM market, the gamers market.
AMD has some advantage only in the retail sales but that I explain with protest vote by the consumers' wallets, rather than honest and reasonable choice/preference of the AMD platform.
AMD had a chance to render the entire intel lineup obsolete, if they lowered the 6-core part to Ryzen 3, and not Ryzen 5 3600.
amd being out of the cpu high end market for over 10 years allowed intel to get a stranglehold on the cpu market and dodgy buisness practices didn’t hurt either.
yes intel will allways sell more cpu then amd. Amd are the underdog. Intel is the more recognised brand yes I don’t doubt these and I even agree with you on all the points made.
but does that mean that intel cpu are better? No it does not. As for amd moving 6/12 threads down to ryzen 3 prices why? Does a intel i5 non k here at 3600 price beat a ryzen 3600 in any meaningful way ? No it does’ doesn’t oc gaming performance is non exaistance at that price point becouse a Nvidia 1060 or amd 580 type of gpu be the limiting after even 2060 is also. And before u link some YouTube benchmark at me who is using a mighty 2080ti who is there right mind will buy a 1K plus gpu for a 200 pound ryzen 3600 or what ever intel is at that price?
amd are a company who wants to make money they have a very compatible and leading performance at every price level atm why would they bring out a ryzen 3 6/12 cpu and then move the ryzen 8/16 cpu down to a 200 pound cpu. There is no need to in my view and only my view this is amd have beaten And matches intel at each price point and the ryzen 3900x for the price I paid was a much better option then a 9900k. Now not everyone will agree with me on that point and I don’t expect anyone too!
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See, told you. Lol.
Some La La Land **** there
It's like he does not understand that AMD have a short window to capitalise on this lead and finally bring in some money after suffering all those years in the red and in debt. AMD could easily find themselves in a similar situation as before like the Athlon days if Intel manage to bring in huge IPC improvements and when they finally reach 7nm. They do have Keller now after all and his work will probably start kicking in in the next few years.
See, told you. Lol.
Some La La Land **** there
It's like he does not understand that AMD have a short window to capitalise on this lead and finally bring in some money after suffering all those years in the red and in debt. AMD could easily find themselves in a similar situation as before like the Athlon days if Intel manage to bring in huge IPC improvements and when they finally reach 7nm. They do have Keller now after all and his work will probably start kicking in in the next few years.
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THIS^^^ all day long