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*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***

13900K needs 110W more power to match the same score of the 5950X in R23. holy inefficient CPU batman

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Of course it does, yes it has those extra E cores, but its still just a 12900K cranked up and rebranded 13 gen.
 
Well, ofc a CPU with 16 E-cores was going to be ahead in multi core performance!

The thing that surprises me, is people think that this is something worth having.

Turn off the E-cores, then see how it fares :D
 
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Well, ofc a CPU with 16 E-cores was going to be ahead in multi core performance!

The thing that surprises me, is people think that this is something worth having.

Turn off the E-cores, then see how it fares :D

But the Core i5 13600KF costs only slightly more than a Ryzen 5 7600X and does better in most cases. But AMD chooses to price the Ryzen 5 7600X more per core than a Ryzen 9 7950X.
 
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hoping for bigger jump but than again they don't wanna go too high leaves less ceiling for the next release after and just being ahead of competition is enough

Just hope the bloody board prices drop want somewhat higher up b650e board
 
Can someone please dumb this down. On this temp 7700X review section at Techpowerup.

Degrees C.
Stock = 71
PBO Max = 74
OC 5.1 All cores = 58

Firstly I thought an OC was faster so if it boosts to 5.5, how is this an OC? Or is it because it means it won't drop to its bottom limit and remains at 5.1 all the time? Does this mean then it won't boost to higher clocks? If so, I wonder what the point of running stock is for gaming because the FPS difference between stock and the OC is like 1 fps.
 
So do we expect AMD to cut prices?

No, they will not. If you haven't been paying attention still global PC sales are in the toilet, and there are huge amounts of last gen products floating around. The only hope of a price reduction is an AMD/Mobo vendor supported deal, where you get CPU/Mobo or CPU/Mobo/RAM as a deal and they take a small hit on the margins to get stock moving between the companies involved.
 
Anyone know if the Asus X670E Extreme board has been in stock at all yet and if not any idea when it might be available?

After seeing the intel reviews I think I’m going to get a 7700X and swap it for the X3D next year.

If not the Asus maybe the MSI Meg Ace but not had MSI since the 90s and was a bad experience. 20 odd years have past, maybe I can let it go.
 
Anyone know if the Asus X670E Extreme board has been in stock at all yet and if not any idea when it might be available?

After seeing the intel reviews I think I’m going to get a 7700X and swap it for the X3D next year.

If not the Asus maybe the MSI Meg Ace but not had MSI since the 90s and was a bad experience. 20 odd years have past, maybe I can let it go.

I've had no issues with MSI x570 unify going 2 years actually had issue with a Asus board years back

It hasn't put me off either just put it down to bad luck
 
I've had no issues with MSI x570 unify going 2 years actually had issue with a Asus board years back

It hasn't put me off either just put it down to bad luck

My issue with MSI was in 1998 with a slot in socket pentium 2 board. Was doa and they wouldn’t replace it.
Haven’t touched them since :cry:

I do like the look of the X690E Meg Ace though.

I’d like an EATX board (big caselabs case to fill) and 10g Ethernet so I can drop the pcie card.
 
My issue with MSI was in 1998 with a slot in socket pentium 2 board. Was doa and they wouldn’t replace it.
Haven’t touched them since :cry:

I do like the look of the X690E Meg Ace though.

I’d like an EATX board (big caselabs case to fill) and 10g Ethernet so I can drop the pcie card.
It’s expensive but I can vouch for the Hero X670E very solid board.
 
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